>>20192421

Shiva was shilling a theory that people need to stop looking at voting machine fraud, that it's impossible to prove in court (LOL forensics mr. email). That was around the time when Lindell was Cyber Symposiuming and CMZ was focusing on imaging / thumb drives / chain of custody (but we also had a decade of HBO Hacking Democracy / Diebold / ESS machine / multiple Hackathon vulnerability 100% exposed on multiple machines by then.) He was saying only signature matching matters. Made no sense to me but some midlevel influencers I know were buying it.

Way I saw it, some people are easily influenced by Shiva's type of delivery ('everyone is dumber than me and deserves derision!') He may have some points, or may be a total scam. But it seems like he always has some angle that no one else is saying, like only he can see the truth, and everyone else is dumb. I mean, we can relate. There are other armchair QB's doing some good work, that never saw a court case they couldn't argue better for instance. But occams razor, a lone voice with a unique theory often means delusion or distraction.

Good with the bad, open mind. Curious what happens on digging, my words are not a solid conclusion but a view.

>>20192450

btw iirc his theory revolved around what I perceived to be 'the people are too dumb to understand how computers work so you can't argue machine fraud in court successfully'. my perspective being that's what lawyers are for.

>>20192522

During new Epstein drops?

Have you read the Q posts?

I mean, there's skepticism, then there's pathological pessimism.

What's your solution? What is the correct course of action given your conclusion?

Facts I see point to strengthening local relationships with people who believe in what Trump stands for. Same?

>>20192540

• deep state hires

fair

• operation warp speed

• responsible for trusting existing pharma and medical industry leaders to come up with a non-toxic solution, responsible for believing in vaccines. Not responsible for Pfizer's ingredients perhaps? (but this all assumes we have all the information. there are at least some plausible scenarios which change culpability significantly.) But fair.

• J6 setup

not fair, even potus commander in chief head of 3 letters as executive does not have control over all actions of all involved

• given biden the election on a platter

I don't see any possibility this is an accurate statement, even as exaggeration, he did everything to win, and did win. he is not responsible for the actions of the secretaries of state, he is not to be expected to overstep executive boundaries (although he did often, the solutions should come from the states).

• all of them colluding

overly generalized statement. there is collusion, trump is not the place most sensible to be looking for it.

there's authentic people out there that are skeptical of it all. those people are owed a serious explanation. I think most who are waiting for 'the big reveal' and expect it to still come also believe the explanation will be satisfactory. Time will tell.

>>20192546

well done. global post-mortem auditability as well?

>>20192552

All I can say is there are many as skeptical as you that are no longer as skeptical. All unconstitutional actions are coming from blatant ridiculous unpopular villain characters. Global understanding of ethical economic principles and individual liberty rises. Chances for a peaceful revolution much greater than in the past.

>>20192596

True - but context. United States Government and entire medical industry and all television ads and every health department and all schools pushed vaccines and immunizations super hard for decades. Now they are almost all untrusted, 4 years later. If you are a 'proof is in the pudding' sort, this would be a plan you can believe in. I personally don't like ends justify the means stuff. The insinuation that it is political posturing by Trump would be a difficult sell for some, and difficult to prove. At minimum, an unresolvable debate.

'Trump knew j6 was going to be a riot' - not careful wording. Millions were there, including Antifa and opposition instigators and professional provocateurs and at least 1/10,000 real fans who are on meds / loony. National Guard would seem a reasonable request without loaded keyword 'riot.' I have no knowledge, information, or opinion on what you see as a disappearance.

'biden selected to cool things off' - your theory gets more difficult to buy at face value, although I can imagine a cabal of spinsters and media manipulators who can print money at will and may have their lives at stake putting up candidates on all sides, and finding great actors to do so, there are too many concessions that have been made to liberty for it to add up, from my perspective.

-'trump failed to assign a special prosecutor for Hillary' true, and whether that is the best course of action would require a team of experts that I do not have access to. I tend toward thinking it is possible that 'no reasonable prosecutor' would bring charges is a true pragmatic statement, and that quite likely accountability will require a cleansing of judicial and DC that comes from a populace that is fed up, rather than what is perceived to be a politically motivated new president wielding the executive. I'm ambivalent due to lack of information, but also am not at a conclusion that I know what all is involved here.

• 'Elon is setting up a chinese style wechat app with WEF CEO' -If so he's doing it very slowly and with some Twitter files and good high exposure tweets in between. but yeah a bunch of bullshit, including that many small accounts are still banned and reach is limited arbitrarily.

'top / bottom' - heirarchical beings learning to check their own nature, in waves, we are at an upward slope toward the good

>>20192681

Thank you, thoughts on Blockchain voting if you like?

>>20192714

Is this the internet's first porn filter in action?

>>20192717

Reverse engineer theorizing here.

Bad actors would be able to leverage / capture individuals, accounts, dark funds, untracked operating budgets, small teams. They could compartmentalize information such that naive / unsuspecting would work their agendas to some extent, mattering in this context only to the extent they have equal capabilities to executive protections + private interests. Foreign services acting in war (those unable to see past their own propaganda). Retired sociopath operators, intelligence, security forces. Good guys would seem to need to be several steps ahead.

>>20192745

>>20192743

Looks like computer-automated red circling of the booby. Nevermind.

>>20192756

Author Stephen Tyler sober since 1989 but recently reported to have relapsed…

Went on Joe Rogan to admit early career sexual escapades with underage fans, calling it 'getting your wings' and that Aerosmith logo is based on that phrase

https://open.spotify.com/episode/77MxUE9GPmxOd6DSTLwmfF

erry rose has it's thorn or something

>>20192735

This makes sense. Lightning networks or other second layers fast enough for realtime counting, would it be worth the complexity if they are?

>>20192801

>>20192833

Really. The only thing to fear has been their resource advantage. It is not possible to become intellectually aware of actionable truths in reality without delusion while being evil.

Formula:

If Trump is not President: It does not matter, he will not be able to drain the swamp.

If Trump is President: It doesn't matter, he isn't singlehandedly draining the swamp to my specification.

>>20192868

'added to swamp' - needs sauce

'wray, barr, fauci' - multiple theories, varying from apologist to plausible. 'How could he know who to trust' 'they were placed to be exposed rather than ride off into the sunset' 'they had already been flipped and play their role' 'he had to carefully play the power centers in washington and make deals / concessions' 'he had to rely on the advice of some bad advisors' 'it's all part of the plan somehow we can't see' 'they are cloned nephalim reincarnated dynastic rothschild/maritimelaw' occams razor he based his appointments on what he knew + what people said in meetings, a combination of doublecrossed and started out with a nontrivial degree of statism

wray: not sure how much human suffering was caused by this appointment over the perfect one. not sure about the state of FBI brass / politics / power structure at time of appointment. not sure if rumors of fbi assassination plan could reach a righteous appointee at that time. not sure we can judge at this stage, given the proclivity to release relevant inside information 50-100 years after execution

barr: many positive actions. appearances on FOX talking about Antifa and woke left alone may represent more toward human freedom than 90% of people in this room. downsides are huge. clinton history big bad. no election fraud action. many believe that's 'plan' stuff. open mind, he may be compromised and family threatened for all I know.

fauci: ffs America Deserves an Explanation

>>20192921

Here's a real link

https://rumble.com/v45cot3-bret-weinstein-exposes-the-world-health-organizations-dark-agenda.html

I guess I didn't realize it was possible to watch Tucker Carlson without a bootleg. Thought he paywalled himself.