Anonymous ID: 72a11a Jan. 19, 2024, 5:43 p.m. No.20270215   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0220

Maga

Looks like the Maga term we use originally came out of Zoroastrian religion, and was used as one of the oldest terms term for a fellowship of Magus (The ‘Magus’, then, would be the man possessed of maga ), Magi. Also that it’s adherents worshipped Indra the God of “The Storm”

 

Maga has been mentioned six times in the Gathas Although interpretations differ as to whether it means a " difficult task, enterprise"   (Kanga & Insler), or "gift and reward," I, following Bartholomae and Taraporewala, derive it from maz/mah to mean "magnanimity," the name Zarathushtra gave to his universal Fellowship. It is twice called maz maga, "Great Fellowship" in the Gathas with a view to emphasizing the importance of the movement started by Zarathushtra. Magavan means "belonging to Maga" and therefore a "companion of Zarathushtra, Zarathushtrian."In the Gathas, it does not give the meaning of a religious leader but a person belonging to the Great Fellowship.

Anonymous ID: 72a11a Jan. 19, 2024, 5:43 p.m. No.20270220   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0232

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Although the Gathic magavan, member of the Zarathushtrian fellowship Maga, has never been used in the Later Avesta, Old Persian magu (Greek magoi, English magus, plural magi) and the subsequent Pahlavi magopat, mowbad; Persian mobad, mobed) mean  a member of the priestly class. There are eight functional terms: zoatar, hâvanân, âtrevakhsh, frâberetar, âberet, âsnâtar, raethwishkara, and sraoshâvareza.

 

They were also known as Magavans, belonging to Maza Maga, the Great Magnonimity, the Great World Fellowship founded by Zarathushtra. This term gave rise to Magu priests of a Median tribe.

 

Magu in Old Persian, and its  subsequent terms of  magus (plural magi), magian, for members of the priestly tribe of Medes during Median and Achaemenian periods in Ancient Iran indicate that in later times, the word became related to a priest and the priestly class. Nonetheless, the Pahlavi magog, Persian mogh, Arabic majûs meaning "Zarathushtrian" and magopat, "head of mago(g)" and therefore a priest show that it continued to be applied to a member of the Zarathushtrian fellowship and not necessarily to "priest." Furthermore, maga is rendered magîh, magianship with a gloss "pure goodness." It is a generic term.

 

https://www.zoroastrian.org/articles/Zoroastrian%20Priest%20in%20the%20Avesta.htm

Anonymous ID: 72a11a Jan. 19, 2024, 5:45 p.m. No.20270232   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0237

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Maga, The Magian Fellowship

 

"Maga" in Avesta and "magha" in Sanskrit is derived from "maz/mah" meaning "to be great, magnanimous, liberal, generous." Maga/magha means "greatness, magnanimity, generosity." The adjective is magavan/maghavan, "great, liberal, generous, and magnanimous." The Sanskrit adjective is used mostly in honor of Indira, the Rigvedic god of clouds and rains, who was "generous" enough to bring riches to the Vedic Aryans by driving the drought away.

Zarathushtra uses Maga for the "Fellowship" he founded through his Good Religion, and "Magavan" for every member of the "Magnanimity." The two words Maga and Magavan – are mentioned for eight times in the Gathas (Maga: Songs 2:11, 11:14, 16:11, 16:16, 17.7 (twice), and Magavan: 6:7, 16:15). Zarathushtra calls his Maga as "maz, great" in two Gathic stanzas 2:11 and 11:14.

The gist of the above stanzas is that the Great Fellowship is based on the its smallest unit – a married couple forming unity in "weal and woe." The units aggregate to include the entire living world. It teaches radiant happiness that reaches all. A person who consults righteousness, uses his/her good mind, and lives a life of progressive peace qualifies to be a member of the Fellowship.

In the beginning Zarathushtra prays to God to lead him to expand his newly founded Fellowship. Later, he is joined by King Vishtaspa and his sagacious team, and the work to promote the "Great Fellowship" gains a great momentum. Zarathushtra's "best wishes" come true when he watches the Fellowship grow far and wide.

It may be noted that the Good Religion does not divide its followers on caste and/or professional systems. It is on geographical bases. Home (demâna) is the first unit. Homes make up a settlement (vîs). Settlements join to make the third unit, district (shoithra). Districts together create a land (dahyu). Lands unite into a world, the earth (bûmi). A home is made of the family (khaetva). A settlement encloses the community (verezena). The land has the fellowship (airyaman). The world of lands has the Great Fellowship (Maz Maga). No race, no color, and no profession to divide the people into upper to lower castes and classes in a pyramid, but five units to unite the entire humanity on this good earth on one level. Only one's good and better thoughts, words and deeds in serving humanity and promoting the world give him/her recognition.

With this "Introduction," I should say, I regret to tell of what happened to Maz Maga, the Great Magnanimity of Magavan (Magnanimous) Zarathushtra after the Gathic period. The Aryans had their primitive caste system – the priests, the warriors, and the miscellany professionals. The third caste labored and produced, and the first two enjoyed the fruits. The Indo-Iranians in the east (Today's Central Asia and northwestern India) had their âthravans/atharvans, the fire priests. It was these who took over the Good Religion and institutionalized it into what we have today as the "Traditional" Zoroastrianism. The Âthravans do not mention the Gathic Magavans and the Zarathushtrian Maz Maga. The two terms are not found in the Later Avesta.

The only two exceptions are: (1) May the water [supply} not be available for him who is of the evil religion, who torments a friend, who torments a "mogho," who torments a neighbor, and who torments a family (Yasna 65.7). (2) A married man is superior to a "maghavan." (here, evidently it means a "celebate" (Vendidad 4:47). Note the change in pronunciation: one is "maghavan" and the other "moghu." Also the meanings are not clear from the contexts in which the two used. Both are deductions.

In the west, the professional priests of Median "nation" were clever enough to retain their caste ("tribe" in the words of Herodotus), and at the same time call themselves Magu, the Median/Old Persian pronunciation of Magava(n). Magu (Magush as nominative singular masculine) was Grecized into Magos with Magi as its plural.

The word "magic" derived from Magu shows how highly learned and advanced were the Magi in their knowledge and crafts. They made non-Iranians wonder and imagine that they were watching "sorcerers" at work. This could happen to any backward people if they see modern scientific implements used by the advanced. We have many stories how people looked first at wireless, telephone, locomotive engine, train, and other inventions and imagined them to be magic and "products of the Devil." Some still do!

With the Magi's name and fame in mind, all the priests of the Babylonian and Assyrian priests of other creeds took the name "Magi" for themselves. It is simple to understand the rest of events, even the Three Wise Men who are said to have visited and paid their respects to the newborn Jesus. Every Magus in what we call Middle East was not Zoroastrian. He was just a "priest."

Anonymous ID: 72a11a Jan. 19, 2024, 5:46 p.m. No.20270237   🗄️.is 🔗kun

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Ok

Last one

 

However, in the case of Jesus, it must be the Zoroastrian Magi because by that time the institutionalized Zoroastrianism was awaiting the miraculous birth of the "savior" from a virgin womb. The early Christians, most likely the gentiles, were finding a way to strengthen their story of the virgin birth by linking it to the "famous" Magi in the east.

Even the very word "priest," shortened from "presbyteros," literally "elder," was originally applied to "a member of the governing body of an early Christian Church." Today most of the religious orders, including Traditionalist Zoroastrians, have their "priests." We have a few more examples in Guru, Yogi, and Mogul

 

http://www.zoroastrian.org.uk/vohuman/Article/Maga,%20The%20Magian%20Fellowship.htm

 

The ‘Magus’, then, would be the man possessed of maga

 

The dawn and twilight of Zoroastrianism

by Zaehner, R. C. (Robert Charles), 1913-1974

 

https://archive.org/details/dawntwilightofzo0000zaeh/page/37/mode/1up

 

Although still surviving, the trend shows a fall of "Maga" from the World Fellowship of Zarathushtra 3700+ years ago to a dwindling community during the days of Hafez in 14th century CE. Yet the "Fire" was not out. It was live and livening!
And now, with the Eternal Fire enlightening our mind, let us turn to the Gathas of Zarathushtra and re-establish the Maz Maga, the Great Magnanimity of World Fellowship, based on wisdom, love, respect, freedom, democracy and prosperity for all without any distinction and discrimination.

 

http://www.gatha.org/index.php?option=com_content&id=284&Itemid=69&lang=