Anonymous ID: 155507 Jan. 24, 2024, 9:47 p.m. No.20299168   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>9192 >>9201

>>20299097

>Oklahoma to Ban Pornography?

 

>This bill would not only ban pornography and sexting altogether for unmarried folks, but also proposes fines up to $2,000 for consuming pornography and fines up to $10,000 for anyone producing or promoting smutty material.

 

Just more theater.

 

Stanley v. Georgia

394 U.S. 557 (1969)

 

The US Supreme Court held that the First and Fourteenth Amendments prohibited making private possession of obscene materials a crime. In his majority opinion, Justice Marshall noted that the rights to receive information and to personal privacy were fundamental to a free society.Marshall then found that "[i]f the First Amendment means anything, it means that a State has no business telling a man, sitting alone in his own house, what books he may read or what films he may watch. Our whole constitutional heritage rebels at the thought of giving government the power to control men's minds."The Court distinguished between the mere private possession of obscene materials and the production and distribution of such materials. The latter, the Court held, could be regulated by the states.

 

Restricting "sexting" to married couples would also be unconstitutional. They know this, it's just theater.

Anonymous ID: 155507 Jan. 24, 2024, 10:05 p.m. No.20299261   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>9269

>>20299236

 

I didn't say you're not free to have your opinion.

 

Porn stars are also free to produce porn, and people are free to watch it. That's freedom.

 

Many people claim to love freedom but they don't, they hate freedom. What they want is a dictatorship that agrees with them. If they like it/agree with it everyone should be "free" to do it. If they don't like it/agree with it then it should be illegal, and even if it's not people should still be punished.

 

Porn is not human trafficking, and not all porn has human trafficking victims. Do you think the ladies in the brothels in NV are human trafficking victims too? They're exercising freedom how they choose to.

 

You're free to express you're opinion, but you're not free to force your morals on them.

 

Don't forget that bill also wants to make it a crime for non married people to "sext". Now how do you think that's NOT a violation of the first amendment? You said you see no problem with it.

Anonymous ID: 155507 Jan. 24, 2024, 10:37 p.m. No.20299413   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>9419 >>9420

>>20299387

 

Not the anon you're arguing with. From my observation, you're trying desperately to make it black and white all or nothing argument. The fact is "defending child rape" as despicable as it is, is free speech.

 

You can't criminalize sharing an opinion, even if the opinion is abominable.

Anonymous ID: 155507 Jan. 24, 2024, 10:49 p.m. No.20299450   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>20299432

 

It's the old "shout fire in a crowded theater" myth. The source of the myth is people misquoting one of the justices in an unrelated case that had nothing to do with fires, theaters, or even free speech.

 

Here's a video from a quick google search

Anonymous ID: 155507 Jan. 24, 2024, 10:53 p.m. No.20299467   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>20299459

>humans think reality malleable.

 

>this is simple conceit.

 

>if you feel otherwise,

 

>you lack even a beginningโ€ฆ

 

>and shall in no wise see the end.

 

โ€œTruly I tell you, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you.โ€ - Jesus

Anonymous ID: 155507 Jan. 24, 2024, 11:03 p.m. No.20299508   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>9527 >>9572

>>20299484

 

Still going with this very poor strawman attempt huh? Still avoiding the original topic which was you can't criminalize sharing an opinion and doubling down on your ignorance while doing it. kek

 

You can not criminalize sharing an opinion.

 

Seriously look into the reality of the shouting fire in a crowded theater myth. What's illegal is to intentionally cause fear and panic in others when there's not an emergency. They have to prove you were intentionally trying to panic others. If you thought the building was on fire, as in sharing your opinion that the theater is on fire in attempt to save people, even if it's not on fire it's not a crime.

Anonymous ID: 155507 Jan. 24, 2024, 11:13 p.m. No.20299542   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>20299527

 

KMAO you just can't stop with the ignorance. You know nothing of the law or how it works in practice, that's very obvious.

 

Don't assume everyone is an ignorant coward such as yourself who won't stand up to lawless cops.

 

Cops get their asses handed to them on the law and do the walk of shame daily.

Anonymous ID: 155507 Jan. 24, 2024, 11:52 p.m. No.20299682   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>9698

>>20299647

 

Policing itself is corrupt to the core in this country. It's not a few bad apples, the entire orchard is rotten and on fire. They are a militarized force AGAINST we the people with no legal duty to protect we the people. They are the standing army our founders warned us about.

 

Government decided that government enforcers could do what the constitution expressely forbids them from doing (civil asset forfeiture - 4th, 5th, and 14th amendments) and while not all jurisdictions do it, NONE of them stood against it, or even spoke out against it. Government is violating our constitution every single day, and most cops have taken an oath to uphold and defend it. Instead, they've militarized and enforce the lawlessness.

Anonymous ID: 155507 Jan. 25, 2024, 12:05 a.m. No.20299727   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>20299715

>ah sorry.

 

No problem

 

>What are the odds?

 

Pretty good actually. Police generally have severe control issues and many turn violent towards family. Policing itself breeds them. The saying isn't "a few bad apples make the barrel LOOK spoiled". Like I said earlier, the entire orchard is rotten and on fire.