Carlson: Do you have evidence that NATO or the CIA did it [Nord Stream]?

President Putin: I won't get into details, but people always say in such cases, look for someone who is interested. But in this case, we should not only look for someone who is interested, but also for someone who has capabilities.

President Putin:You know, you can give different interpretations to what constitutes a spy, but there are certain things provided by law. If person gets secret information, and does that in conspiratorial matter, than this is qualified as espionage. And that is exactly what he [Evan Gershkovich] was doing. He was receiving classified, confidential information, and he did it covertly…this is qualified as espionage. The fact has been proven, as he was caught red-handed when he was receiving this information…I don't know who he was working for…he was working for the US Special Services; some other agencies…he's not just a journalist, he's a journalist who was secretly getting confidential information.