Three arms. That's a neat trick.
Yeah I remember when that came out. Don't forget the song, "little willie."
While I'm at it, what the fuck. Good music is good music.
Disregard the double post. Fucking stupid browser. Let's try again.
Who Are the Edomites?
There are more Bible passages pronouncing judgment on the Edomites than on any other nation.1 But who are they? What relevance do they have for us today? As diligent students of the Word of God, it is essential for us to understand who they are and what eschatological implications they may have on our present geopolitical horizon.
The Everlasting Hatred
The covenant birthright was a point of contention between Sarah vs. Hagar,2 Isaac vs. Ishmael,3 and which then became the root of the hb’yae ~l’A[ olam ebah—the “Everlasting Hatred”—beginning in the womb with Esau and Jacob, and Esau’s sub-sequent contempt of the covenant birthright,4 and resulting in Esau’s spiteful intermarriage with the Ishmaelites, which con-tinued the “everlasting hatred” to this very day.5 Recognition of this “Everlasting Hatred”—and its embodiment in Islam—is essential to our understanding its eschatological implications, as well as the daily newscasts that dominate our mainline press.
The tensions continued as Israel, after the exodus from Egypt, was denied passage through their land of Edom.6 The misleading nature of the maps in many of our Bibles cause us to assume that the Edomites were confined east of the Jordan, south of Moab. However, the Edomites (“Idumeans” in Greek), under pressure from the Nabateans in the east, migrated west and established their own “Idumea” (see map, right).
Migration into “Idumea”
Nomadic Nabateans migrated out of Arabia into Edom and drove the Edomites westward. Directly west of Edom were established routes of passage. Land there was historically more prosperous and resourceful than the land of Edom, which consisted of infertile deserts and jagged mountains. Further-more, the land bore a family association: after all, Esau was Jacob’s brother.
Hebron, 19 miles south of Jerusalem and 3400 ft. above sea level, became their new capital: established 1500 years earlier, unlike Jerusalem, it was left intact as prime real estate after the Babylonian deportation under Nebuchadnezzar.
As the Babylonians took Judah into captivity, and angry soldiers wrecked the walls, slew the people, and burned the city, we could have observed their neighboring citizens—the Edomites—encourage the Babylonians to ruin the city: “Raze it! Raze it!” they were calling. “Dash their little children against the stones and wipe out the Jews!”7
Hebron remained under Edomite control until Judas Maccabeus retook the city under Jewish control in 164 B.C. Thirty-eight years later, in 126 B.C., they had to be reconquered by the Jewish Army under prince and high priest John Hyrcanus. A pivotal event then took place in which Idumeans were forced to be proselytized into Judaism or flee or die. This resulted in many Idumeans pretending to become Jews, yet really were not.8
In 47 B.C. Julius Caesar promoted the Idumean Antipater as procurator over Judea, Samaria and Galilee. In 37 B.C., the Romans named Herod, son of Antipater, as King over Israel. (His mother was Nabatean). Thus, the Herods of the New Testament were Edomites: One of them killed the Jewish babies in his attempt to destroy Christ;9 another Herod murdered John the Baptist; another one killed James the brother of John.10
These “almost Jews” were—to the Roman mind—more comfortable than the true Jews. The Idumeans had five centuries of prior history in Israel by the time of the arrival of the Messiah Jesus.11 The struggle between the Israelis and the Arabs today is but a continuation of this same hatred that began in Genesis 25:21-26.
Obscure Labeling
Specificity can, in some cases, be critical. Metaphors reign where mysteries reside. At the time of the fall of Jerusalem in 70 A.D., there was civil turmoil among the Zealots, the Idumeans, and the Orthodox Jews. Twenty thousand Idumean infantry slaughtered many of the Orthodox Jews. Yet, many also fought with the Jews against the Romans. Many were killed, sold into slavery, or many were among the 40,000 set free by Caesar. The distinctive hatred of the Idumeans had become obscured to the Roman mind.
During the subsequent revolt under Bar Kokhba, there were about 200,000 men at his command, with which he recaptured Jerusalem and many strongholds throughout the country. Emperor Hadrian called legion upon legion to crush the Jewish insurgents. Over 580,000 lost their lives.
Hadrian committed himself to stamp out Jewish national-ism entirely. Traditions such as circumcision, the Sabbath, and reading the Torah became forbidden under penalty of death. He also resolved to rename the region after the Jew’s worst enemy.
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The Romans had two primary choices: Idumea or Philistia. Idumeans were viewed as practitioners of Judaism, and the tensions among them were regarded as simply a family squab-ble. They did not view the Idumeans as great an enemy to the Jews as the Philistines, so they named the region “Palestina,” which is the Latin for Philistia. Until 135 A.D., after the Bar Kokhba revolt, maps still dis-played Idumea. However, after the Romans chose to name the region “Palestina,” Idumea disappeared from future maps and history. The Edomites, subsequently known as Idumeans, be-came assimilated into the “Palestinians” of today. The “tents of Edom” featured in Psalm 83 appear as refugee camps in the propaganda of the Palestine Authority today.
Furthermore, many orthodox Jews today continue to view the international “globalists” as Edomites, a term they regard as referring to Rome or any other ruling empire.…
Lynn De Rothshilld.
Seems there was an Epstein-Lynn de Rothschild connection. He apparently supplied her with presumable a loan, the question I wonder is, what strings were attached to it? The other thing I wonder is, are the Roths really Edomites?
Hmm.
She does have a history of donating money to people like Obummer and Killery. Would make sense.