Anonymous ID: c80d05 March 19, 2024, 6:42 a.m. No.20590047   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>20590040

interesting. Didn't Q say something bout being shocked about who you are talking to here. That always seemed hyperbolic though to me, considering I would imagine that most anons would not be impressed by so called important people. Tell them to fuck off either way.

Anonymous ID: c80d05 March 19, 2024, 7:04 a.m. No.20590136   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0192 >>0231 >>0500

>>20590117

that is the problem though it does not matter to them. You are acting like any of this system is fair or just. When the judge has already violated Trumps constitutional rights on more than one occasion they do not care what they do or what they are willing to do. The question is how do you fight a legal system that is rigged in such a way that fighting back against it is an impossibility. He is being FORCED to pay his fine before even his appeal and because he can not pay for the excessive fee they will seize his properties claiming they all have lesser values to get them all and then still have their god damn hands out. SO they are even taking his stuff away before the appeal. Its a disgrace and every respectable lawyer if there is such a thing should start talking about how to manipulate the legal system somehow to go against the judges and the courts themselves because based on this the courts have no legitimacy in america what so ever.

Anonymous ID: c80d05 March 19, 2024, 7:13 a.m. No.20590187   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0307

>>20590164

It should not hurt you heart anon, it should make it burn with passion and anger at not just the current injustice that with Trump that is just a picture, but to realize that this happens every day in American courts where people are denied their full rights based upon shit laws written by shittier people. To realize that even the concept of justice is so far away from so many even those in jail. Were they all given a fair shot. The visual problems alone will wreck the system which I also suspect was what was intended.

Anonymous ID: c80d05 March 19, 2024, 7:26 a.m. No.20590267   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0292 >>0298

>>20590231

I don't think he appealed that one yet and I remember there was a reason given at the time as to some issue that was being put up as a blockade their also. My guess is that the appeal was not granted and that Engoron was the one who also denied it. It was more a question of expending ammo early or waiting till now. But if anything will wake the people up it will be Trump having his buildings taken away for paying his loans back.

Anonymous ID: c80d05 March 19, 2024, 7:38 a.m. No.20590326   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>20590292

yes he can, they are doing what ever they want acting like they are playing fair is naive on your part. This is why they are able to saddle him with paying his bond on the decision before the appeal has been allowed on the full decision. It is all unconstitutional but also consider will he ever get a fair trial in a New York court. The answer is of course NO. So just appealing would also not really make that much difference. Of course it could get all the way to the SC again but that is a timing issue. SO no matter if you did it correctly or at a certain time the result would be the same.

Anonymous ID: c80d05 March 19, 2024, 7:43 a.m. No.20590356   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0360 >>0393 >>0673

https://www.nyc.gov/site/oath/hearings/appeal-frequently-asked-questions.page

 

anons this site directly from NYC says this: Do I have to pay the penalty before I appeal?

 

Yes, in most cases you are required to pay the penalty before you appeal. Payment is not required if the summons is for a violation of a law or regulation enforced by the Taxi & Limousine Commission.

I cannot afford to pay the fines or penalties before filing for an appeal. What can I do?

 

You can apply for a waiver of payment of the penalty before or at the time you file your Appeal Application. The Financial Hardship Application form is available at this website. The application must be supported by evidence of financial hardship. Waivers are granted at the discretion of the OATH Chief Administrative Law Judge. If a waiver is granted, you will not have to pay the penalty until your appeal is decided. Payment of restitution cannot be waived. More information about payment and financial hardship waivers is included in the instructions on the Appeal Application form at this website.

 

They may be trying to get Trump to file one of these so they can laugh at him. That would make sense to me at least. Does seem that New York is acting not constitutionally but again, the state.

 

>>20590320

Anonymous ID: c80d05 March 19, 2024, 7:47 a.m. No.20590382   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>20590307

you are correct and it is not being a downer it is looking at the pieces on the board and seeing what can be done with them. This is not just for america but people globally so it is more than a political thing and it is more than peoples silly faith in whatever book they currently think is true. This is a societal change good or bad do not know. I know that what ever has happened this slowed some stuff down, it has allowed sleepers to wake up and see what has happened but the after effects are still unknown, and in my mind nothing can be the same after. So the dream of America kinda has to end if people are going to wake up.

Anonymous ID: c80d05 March 19, 2024, 7:56 a.m. No.20590437   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>20590393

That is a good point about when they enacted this, it may be like you hypothesized, question is how do you prove it. My guess is that they are skirting the law by having the form of saying you don't have the cash. But in some ways Trump signing that would also be used as an admission of guilt about his finances as it would say his value is not what stated. Created a circular loop of logic. Sometimes when you play chess your Rooks have to be sacrificed for the sake of the king.

Anonymous ID: c80d05 March 19, 2024, 8:12 a.m. No.20590528   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0543

>>20590490

and you do not seem to understand that they do and are. That is what that "being poor" form does. It allows him to have his rights at the admission that he is poor. They set the penalty (corrupt) and then said if you want the appeal fine you can have it but if you can not pay fill this out. That is the remedy that the state set up, they are using semantics to justify the way this works. They want the money first there is nothing saying that is wrong, not according to their defining of the terms. I do personally think it is wrong that they can take your money before your appeal is done, but that seems to be exactly what new york does and the question is how many other states have similar statues and as a result it prevents many appeals from even happening. This is a set up I am telling you to that form. Trump would have to admit financial difficulties.

Anonymous ID: c80d05 March 19, 2024, 8:18 a.m. No.20590556   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>20590542

now you have to prove it was not fair. Prove a negative. What defines a fair trial. Fair to who. The defendant the plaintiff, the state. When the judge says just like in the georgia case that obvious conflicts of interest are still fine, when the judges are wrong purposefully then can anyone ever have a fair trial when the shroud of impropriety lay over the justice system.

Anonymous ID: c80d05 March 19, 2024, 8:24 a.m. No.20590597   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>20590571

yes they can, I already posted the how and why they are justifying it. They want him to fill out that form. If he does that he will not be denied. Now the question is does that form bar him getting his rights is that a huge barrier. Again semantics. There is a difference between what the laws says and how others interpret it. He can appeal if he fills out the form saying he is broke, or he can pay the fine.

Anonymous ID: c80d05 March 19, 2024, 8:29 a.m. No.20590613   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>20590589

no but the way they got around that was saying that Habba did not check a box. That was one of the very first fights in that trial as the decision was already made and by the time Trump first showed up into court that was all to discuss damages not guilt.

Anonymous ID: c80d05 March 19, 2024, 8:33 a.m. No.20590632   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>20590607

Constitutionally that is true. But when the people who say they are legally following the constitution, yet they are not, are in power, how do you legally remove them from power when they tip the scales of justice. The very constitution needs to be looked at because are the amendments constitutional? Is giving people the right to vote constitutional? If it was put into place illegally, perhaps. How much does the law have to be destroyed to get to the simple point that goes back to M v. Madison?