Anonymous ID: f47022 April 3, 2024, 8:43 a.m. No.20671922   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1938 >>1943 >>2142 >>2370

3 conspiracy theories Putin promoted in his Tucker Carlson interview that Carlson didn’t challenge

KEK Fucking Funny! Think Tanks, agency controlled history professors, etc fact checking Putin.Politifact MUST BE BELIEVED!1/3

 

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Russian President Vladimir Putin told former Fox News host Tucker Carlson that “Ukraine is an artificial state.” That claim is inaccurate and one-sided, historians say.

 

Putin said the U.S. isn’t being run by elected officials such as President Joe Biden. Experts who study Russian propaganda campaigns and Russian politics told PolitiFact there’s no evidence to support that theory, and said Putin advanced the theory to sow existing political divisions in the U.S.

 

Putin claimed Russia’s goal in invading Ukraine was “denazification.” There’s no evidence Ukraine is a Nazi state; this narrative has been rebutted by historians, U.S. officials and other experts.

 

Russian President Vladimir Putin voiced numerous unsubstantiated and conspiratorial views during his sprawling conversation with former Fox News host Tucker Carlson.

Carlson, who promoted the interview as an antidote to what he described as "corrupt" media, offered little pushback.

 

Over two hours and six minutes, Carlson provided Putin a platform to push baseless narratives — at times assisting with the effort.

 

When Carlson asked Putin who was responsible for blowing up Nord Stream, the natural gas pipeline network that runs from Russia to Europe, Putin blamed the U.S. for the 2022 incident — and Carlson appeared to concur. Unmentioned: No state has taken responsibility for the blasts, which were ruled deliberate.

 

At moments, it seemed Carlson was gearing up to challenge Putin, but he ended up conceding the point.

 

Carlson asked Putin whether Russia would release Wall Street Journal reporter Evan Gershkovich, 32, who has been held for close to a year on espionage charges stemming from a reporting trip in Russia. "The guy’s obviously not a spy," Carlson said before offering, "Maybe he was breaking your law in some way, but he’s not a super spy, and everybody knows that." Putin responded by insisting otherwise. "He’s not just a journalist," Putin said before the line of questioning ended.

 

Unmentioned: The U.S. State Department, The Wall Street Journal and the Committee to Protect Journalists insist Gershkovich is being wrongly held. The Wall Street Journal responded that the attempts to portray Gershkovich as anything but a journalist were "total fiction."

 

Carlson’s rhetoric has been increasingly Russia friendly in recent years, with Carlson questioning the United States’ support for Ukraine following Russia’s Feb. 24, 2022, invasion and pushing Kremlin propagandaabout the war. Carlson’s remarks have been broadcast by Russian state media on multiple occasions.

 

Carlson didn’t fact-check Putin, so we did. Here are three conspiracy theories Putin shared:

 

Putin’s claim that ‘Ukraine is an artificial state’

 

Putin began the interview with a 30-minute near filibuster detailing the history of Russia and Ukraine by going back centuries. "Ukraine is an artificial state that was shaped at Stalin’s will," Putin said, referring to former Soviet Union leader Joseph Stalin.

 

We’ve heard this from Putin before. What’s now Ukraine, he argued, was part of Russian territory as far back as the ninth century. In the interview, he said the Ukrainian state was established as part of the Soviet Union in 1922, and had never existed before then. After World War II, Ukraine was given land, including from Poland, Hungary and Romania, to which it had no historical claim, he said.

 

Putin’s historical view is inaccurate and one-sided, historians told PolitiFact in 2022after Putin launched the Ukraine war with a similar argument. Territory in Ukraine has been controlled by several countries or empires for hundreds of years before Russia gained hold.…

 

https://www.politifact.com/article/2024/feb/09/3-conspiracy-theories-putin-promoted-in-his-tucker/

Anonymous ID: f47022 April 3, 2024, 8:47 a.m. No.20671943   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1953 >>1957 >>1962 >>2370

>>20671922

2/3

(American Paid Talking Heads know more about Russia and European History than Putin. They give their opinions, but no facts. No wonder college students are stupid. CIA led Thank Tanks are always right! Don’t forget)

 

"Putin’s aggression in Ukraine is justified through grievous historical distortions that conflate the Rus’ state, founded in the ninth century in Kyiv, with the Russian state, which only began to take shape in Moscow several hundreds of years later," said Faith Hillis, a University of Chicago history professor.

 

Putin presents the Rus’ territory as Russia’s "primordial heritage" from more than 1,000 years ago, Hillis said.

 

"This distorted view of history is not Putin's invention," Hillis said. "It is a rehashing of a narrative crafted by conservative defenders of the Russian empire in the nineteenth century."

 

Richard Arnold, a Muskingum University political science professor, said Putin’s reference to an "artificial state" may have something to do with the Soviet Theory of Ethnos, which holds that ethnic groups "were objective and natural, created in part by solar rays determining the abundance of crops in certain areas of the globe, and that the groups had a consciousness."

 

"Putin probably believes Ukraine is not a sufficiently ancient nation to be a ‘real’ ethnos, a ‘real’ nation," Arnold said. "We can decide ourselves how scientifically rigorous such a concept is, which, if applied to the U.S., would suggest it is really a British nation."

Regardless of Putin’s theory, Arnold said, there were Ukrainian intellectuals in the 19th century who adopted nationalist language when discussing their country.

Erik Herron, a West Virginia University political science professor, said the origins of Ukrainian statehood are complicated and have long been debated, but documented references to Ukraine are centuries old.

 

"Regardless of when a formal Ukrainian state emerged, it was not ‘shaped at Stalin’s will,’ and the foundations for it were built over centuries through the development of a unique national identity," Herron said.

 

Putin’s claim that Russia is pursuing ‘denazification’ in Ukraine

Putin has justified his invasion of Ukraine by claiming that Russia seeks to "denazify" Ukraine. During the interview, Carlson asked whether Putin had achieved the goals he had when he invaded Ukraine.

 

"No," Putin replied. "We haven’t achieved our aims yet because one of them is denazification. This means the prohibition of all kinds of neo-Nazi movements."

 

There’s no evidence Ukraine is a Nazi state. This falsehood has been fact-checked by experts and news organizations, including PolitiFact. Historians who study genocides and the Holocaust decried Putin’s narrative as "factually wrong, morally repugnant and deeply offensive." (Neo Nazi is just the new Nazis, or revived, so they are a Nazi state. Look at all the orders Zelensky did to destroy the government and opposition)

 

Zelenskyy is Jewish and lost family in the Holocaust.

 

Neo-Nazi groups exist in Ukraine — as they do in the U.S. and Russia — but Putin overstates their power. In 2014, the white-supremicist-led Azov battalion played a key role in fighting Russian separatists, and the battalion received appreciation from some within the Ukrainian government, but experts say it represents a small portion of Ukraine’s military, PolitiFact reported in 2022.

 

The U.S. State Department has said Putin exploits a grain of truth to "manipulate international public opinion by drawing false parallels between Moscow’s aggression against Ukraine and the Soviet fight against Nazi Germany."

 

John Herbst, senior director of the Atlantic Council’s Eurasia Center and former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, pointed to a 2019 Pew Research Center poll that foundUkraine was among the European countries with the highest percentage of people who expressed "favorable views" of Jews.(see not Nazis)

 

https://www.politifact.com/article/2024/feb/09/3-conspiracy-theories-putin-promoted-in-his-tucker/

Anonymous ID: f47022 April 3, 2024, 8:50 a.m. No.20671957   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1960 >>1965

>>20671943

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"If Ukraine was a hotbed of Nazis, thenpresumablyantisemitism is going to be a disproportionately large problem," Herbst said, adding that before Zelenskyy, Ukraine had a Jewish prime minister, Volodymyr Groysman.

 

The claim that the U.S. is run by a shadow government, not elected leaders(The Shadow government denying a Shadow Government in US)

 

With Carlson’s prompting, Putin also argued that the U.S. isn’t being run by its elected officials.

 

"Twice you’ve described U.S. presidents making decisions and then being undercut by their agency heads," Carlson summarized. "So it sounds like you're describing a system that’s not run by the people who are elected, in your telling."

"That’s right, that’s right," Putin said.

PolitiFact has repeatedly fact-checked the baseless conspiracy theory that "the deep state," "a secret cabal," or "a shadow government" plays an outsized role in American governance.

 

Experts said Putin knew Carlson’s audience.

 

"Putin understands who listens to Tucker Carlson, and he knows that former President Trump and his allies have made references to the ‘deep state,’" Herron said. "This type of claim only fuels divisions in the U.S., and that is one of Putin’s goals."

Scott Radnitz, professor at the Jackson School of International Studies at the University of Washington, said that by "signaling his agreement with Republican beliefs and repeating their talking points," Putin also hoped to "build on their admiration for him."

 

Todd Helmus, a senior behavioral scientist at Rand Corp. who has studied Russia-led propaganda campaigns, said that Putin’s task for the interview was to speak to "hardcore conservatives." Pushing this narrative was Putin’s attempt to "accentuate any divisions" and advance lines that might "harden opposition" to the U.S. providing continued support for Ukraine.

That Congress has not provided more aid for Ukraine helps disprove the idea of a shadow government working in Ukraine’s favor, Herron said.

 

"The president does not have deep state operatives or a shadow government funneling resources to Ukraine in defiance of Congress," Herron said. Elected leaders make budget decisions, "and their preferences do not match the president’s preferences. Until this changes, aid for Ukraine’s war efforts is not coming from the U.S. budget precisely because of the decisions of elected leaders."

 

(Don’t forget, Putin doesn’t know anything about Russia’s history, forget the 1,000s of years of historical archive. Tucker has always been a tool and didn’t challenge Putin of his lies, so he must be a Putin stooge. America DS War monger Think Tanks, and America history professors know the truth better than the President and people of Russia;AND Zelensky is a Jew therefore there are No Nazis in Ukraine, plus they are just Neo-Nazis, and not many) ; and this narrative has been rebutted by historians, U.S. officials and other experts.

 

KEK the END

 

https://www.politifact.com/article/2024/feb/09/3-conspiracy-theories-putin-promoted-in-his-tucker/

Anonymous ID: f47022 April 3, 2024, 8:55 a.m. No.20671983   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>20671962

Yes, but Politifact just uses “Experts” opinion, SO YOU MUST LISTEN. They are still trying to prove they all have the real story and are much more intelligent then the rubes. And they are funded by the usual ways every propaganda outlet is

Anonymous ID: f47022 April 3, 2024, 9:33 a.m. No.20672142   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>2163 >>2175 >>2183 >>2185 >>2212 >>2370

>>20671922

Politifact has aTracker or truth Meter for Trump and Biden.Hmm Biden has a much better record than Trump. Who knew…Just remember Bidan keeps almost all his promises.They should create a lie meter for Bidan

 

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https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/

 

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https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/biden-promise-tracker/?ruling=true

Anonymous ID: f47022 April 3, 2024, 9:43 a.m. No.20672185   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>2370

>>20672142

So many trusted donors WOWjust a few here, many more to Politifact, owned by Poynter Institute.

 

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Anonymous ID: f47022 April 3, 2024, 9:48 a.m. No.20672212   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>2215

>>20672142

>>20672142

Well its not like Bidan promised to do good for America, he promised open borders and stop gas and oil production. He probably promised behind the scenes he would destroy Trump.

 

They really need to a make a Lie Meter for Bidan, it would be a victory of lies he told. They can congratulate him for all of them

Anonymous ID: f47022 April 3, 2024, 9:56 a.m. No.20672248   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>20671849

He’s a shitty liar! You got to get with theAgendaI lay out, not what America wants

 

He sounds like a NWO dictator like a little Zelenskyhis hero that he wants to fund.

 

Does he have a kiddy diddling problem?

Anonymous ID: f47022 April 3, 2024, 10:07 a.m. No.20672293   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>2305 >>2370

3 Apr, 2024 14:23

Ukrainians target Australian politician over Moscow trip

A neo-Nazi-linked activistwants the town councilor fired for observing Russia’s presidential election

 

(Nazis in Ukraine, Want Nazi Action)

 

The Australian Federation ofUkrainian Organisations has demanded that a small-town councilor be firedfor traveling to Russia to observe the country’s recent presidential election and congratulating Vladimir Putin on his “transparent and comprehensive” victory.

 

Adrian McRae of Port Hedland in Western Australia flew to Moscow last monthas part of an international delegation to scrutinize Russia’s presidential election. A little-known councilor from a town of just 15,000 people, McRae drew attention back home when he appeared on Russian TV passing on his congratulations to Putin, who won with 87% of the vote.

 

“In my lifetime, the world has never seen such a transparent and comprehensive victory as what we saw here over the last three days,”McRae declared.

 

McRae’s comments infuriated Australian Federation ofUkrainian Organisations (AFUO) co-chair Stefan Romanov.

 

You’ve made the statements, you’ve offended people, you’ve gone against the international community, you’re trying to portray a picture that those in Russia have voted for a presidentwho is now brutalizing Ukraine,” Romanov fumed, addressing McRae via ABC News on Tuesday.

 

“You know what? Go and do your work with the Russian government, go and do your work with the Russian embassy and let somebody represent the community according to community values,” Romanov added.

 

In addition to leading the AFUO, Romanov was the head of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists’ Stepan Bandera faction (OUN-B) from 2009 to 2022. Under Bandera and after his arrest, the OUN-B collaborated with Nazi Germany, taking part in the mass murder of Poles during World War II amid Adolf Hitler’s invasion of the Soviet Union. As OUN-B leader, Romanov has spoken at rallies organized by the neo-Nazi ‘Svoboda’ party in Ukraine.

 

Former Port Hedland Shire President Arnold Carter has joined Romanov in calling for McRae’s dismissal, while Western Australia Premier Roger Cook called the councilor’s comments “bizarre,” and encouraged “the people of Port Hedland to express their dissatisfaction with that.”

 

In an interview with Nine News on Monday, McRae explained that a “chance meeting” in January with Russian ambassador Alexey Pavlovsky had piqued his interest in traveling to Russia to observe the election. Fresh from winning his own local election in Port Hedland, he said that he arrived in Moscow last month with “a few, probably media-driven preconceived notions” about Russia.

 

“But coming back…their democracy is more transparent and more certainly more professionally run, the logistics and management of their election process leads anything I’ve seen, certainly in the West,” he told the Australian network.

 

Allegations that McRae and his fellow observers were “being played” by Russian authorities, or that the election itself was unfair are “not only insulting to me,” McRae said, “but I’m sure the Russian people, if they heard that, it would be an absolute slap in the face.”

 

McRae added that he paid his own way to Russia, and that the trip “had nothing to do with anything Port Hedland council related.”

 

https://www.rt.com/news/595347-australia-politician-russia-trip/

Anonymous ID: f47022 April 3, 2024, 10:20 a.m. No.20672352   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>2368

3 Apr, 2024 13:03

Ukrainian military leaders know they can't win on battlefield – Guardian

Their army’s weakness has prompted Kiev’s strikes on Russian infrastructure, senior officers have allegedly told the London newspaper

 

Ukraine has no other option but to launch attacks inside Russia, including on its oil infrastructure, because its army faces continued setbacks on the battlefield, The Guardian has reported, citing the leadership of the country's military intelligence service, the GUR.

 

Officers who allegedly spoke to the British newspaper were candid about Kiev’s desperate military situation. GUR Brigadier-GeneralDmitry Timkov said his country was like a patient on life support.

 

”We are attached to a drip. We have enough drugs to stay alive. But, if the West wants us to win, we need the full treatment,” he admitted, referring to the dwindling quantities of military aid coming from Kiev's western backers.(the drug metaphor is not a metaphor, its true, they are drug traffickers and money laundering)

 

Major General Vadim Skibitsky, the deputy head of the GUR, admitted that a Ukrainianvictory, widely promised by Kiev, is impossible at the moment. Facing multiple setbacks, the agency had “no choice” but to launch strikes deep inside Russia. He described this as a “NATO-standard procedure, known as center of gravity, or COG.”

 

The concept was first developed by Carl von Clausewitz, the famous Prussian general and military theorist, and essentially refers to targets that have the most value for the enemy, physically or morally.

 

GUR officialsthat spoke to the Guardianclaimed credit for a recent string of Ukrainian drone strikeson Russian oil infrastructure. This contradicts public statements by the head of SBU, the Ukrainian civilian security agency, Vasily Maliuk who said it was his agents who were responsible for the operations.

 

Both branches have been overhauled in the years since the 2014 armed coup in Kiev, with the CIA’s help, according to Western media reports. Both were allegedly involved in targeted assassinations of people deemed enemies of Ukraine, since before the conflict with Russia began in 2022.

 

The newspaper saidGUR intends to launch a new major attack on the Crimean Bridge–and to disable it– “in the first half of 2024.” Ukraine has previously targeted the structure, twice in 2022 and 2023.

 

The first plot involved a powerful bomb hidden in a truck, which killed the vehicle’s driver and four other civilians in nearby cars. Moscow said GUR masterminded this attack. The second strike involved naval kamikaze drones that SBU said were deployed by its agents. That bombing killed two civilians.

 

Moscow has accusedKiev of engaging in terrorism as a method of war. The regime in Kiev has adopted the tactics, Russian officials are claiming, because it is unable to score victories on the battlefield.

 

https://www.rt.com/russia/595341-ukraine-gur-attacks-guardian/

Anonymous ID: f47022 April 3, 2024, 10:30 a.m. No.20672398   🗄️.is 🔗kun

3 Apr, 2024 15:26

Ukraine aid must be a multi-year financial commitment for NATO – Stoltenberg

The chief of the US-led bloc has reportedly suggested a five-year, $107 billion plan to provide Kiev with weapons

 

Ukraine should be able to enjoy a stable stream of Western arms supplies in the long term rather than relying on voluntary donations, NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg has said.

 

Speaking ahead of the NATO foreign ministers summit in Brussels on Wednesday, the bloc’s chief stressed that Kiev – which has repeatedly complained of the lack of ammunition and weapons – “has urgent needs,” while warning that any delays in assistance would have consequences on the battlefield.

 

In this light, Stoltenberg urged NATO allies to “shift the dynamics of our support.” “We must ensure reliable and predictable security assistance to Ukraine for the long haul. So that we rely less on voluntary contributions and more on NATO commitments,” he said, adding that those pledges would have to last for at least several years. “We will also discuss a multi-year financial commitment to sustain our support,” NATO boss added.

 

According to Reuters, to secure long-term support for Kiev, Stoltenberg had proposed a five-year €100 billion ($107 billion) package of military aid to Ukraine.Under the plan, the US-led military bloc would also reportedly take on more responsibility for coordinating the assistance to Kiev from the USamid concerns that the reelection of GOP presidential frontrunner Donald Trump could undermine the Western campaign to support Ukraine. (Oh Hell No!)

 

When asked about the specifics of the plan, Stoltenberg declined to go into the details, adding that he did not expect it to be fully fleshed out in the near future. “We will hopefully move forward towards consensus, andthen we will have an agreement in place by the summit” in Washington this summer, he noted.

(They are going behind Trump’s back to get a Hard Core Commitment by Bidan!If they do that Trump should withdraw from NATO permanently.)

 

Russia has repeatedly condemned Western arms shipments to Ukraine, saying that they will only prolong the conflict and that Kiev will not be able to exist without foreign support.

 

On Tuesday, the secretary of the Russian Security Council, Nikolay Patrushev, argued that NATO is seeking to retain control over Ukraine in a bid to use it as an “anti-Russia”bridgehead, noting that the bloc has been pumping Kiev with weapons since the Western-backed coup in Kiev in 2014.

 

(The money laundering must continue for EU leaders, they’ve worked to hard for this. There’s something seriously wrong with these NATO countries.)

 

https://www.rt.com/news/595352-stoltenberg-ukraine-long-terms-aid/

Anonymous ID: f47022 April 3, 2024, 10:40 a.m. No.20672457   🗄️.is 🔗kun

3 Apr, 2024 14:06

Ukraine spreading anti-immigrant hate in Russia – The Times

Kiev is “leveraging” the recent Moscow terrorist attack in an attempt to sow discord, an official has told the newspaper

 

Ukrainian information warfare specialists are using last month’s terrorist attack near Moscow in an effort to play on the emotions of Russians andincite ethnic hatred in the country, The Times reported on Tuesday.

 

The massacre at the Crocus City Hall concert venue just outside the Russian capital claimed over 140 lives. The suspected perpetrators, who were apprehended by Russian law enforcement, are all nationals of Tajikistan.

 

The public outcry over the slaughter of civilians by the apparent radical Islamistsis being used by Kiev to spread discord in the multiethnic Russian society, Andrey Kovalenko, head of Ukraine’s Centre for Countering Disinformation (CCD), told the British newspaper. (Nina Jankowicz set up the Center)

 

[The attack] provoked a split between nationalities in Russia and of course it’s very beneficial for us to support any national splits there and to fuel them,” the official said. “We leverage what we can.”

 

CCD employees are infiltrating Russian Telegram channels to “amplify” messaging that increases tensions between Slavic and non-Slavic ethnicities as well as anti-immigrant sentiments, the report said.

 

Ukraine has previously claimed to be the victim of Russian ‘psyops’ on a massive scale. President Vladimir Zelensky told foreign journalists in February that his government was being targeted by an information warfare plot dubbed ‘Maidan-3’.

 

Russia is familiar with Kiev-linked incitement on social media. Last October, false claims on Telegram in the majority-Muslim Dagestan Republic led to a riot in the city of Makhachkala. Agitated locals broke into an airport expecting a flight from Tel Aviv to land there. The disturbance was fueled by anti-Israeli sentiment, as the Jewish state was bombarding Gaza in the wake of a deadly incursion by the Palestinian group Hamas. Over 20 rioters and police officers were injured in the resulting clashes.

 

The Telegram channel accused of triggering the violence was founded by Ilya Ponomarev, a former Russian MP who fled to Kiev in 2014 after being charged with embezzlement. He also serves as the spokesman for Kiev-backed militant groups that seek to topple the government in Moscow, such as the so-called Russian Volunteer Corps.

 

https://www.rt.com/russia/595345-ukraine-psy-op-crocus/