Anonymous ID: 3d9da2 April 14, 2024, 10:11 p.m. No.20726362   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>6363

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"Propulsion of the aircraft may be provided by a fixed-pitch eight blade composite blade propeller mounted at the rear of the fuselage on the centerline axis. The propeller airfoil sections and section incidence angles are configured to provide maximum efficiency at cruise at 50,000 ft. altitude and above. Propeller diameter is also optimized for the high altitude cruise environment and as a result essentially eliminates supersonic blade velocities during low altitude operation. The optimum propeller diameter is slightly smaller than maximum fuselage diameter which coincidentally reduces the probability of bird strike and other foreign object damage. … The aircraft cabin may be approximately 74 inches high and include an approximately 78 inch width having a minimum 50 inch seat pitch. The aircraft has a service ceiling of approximately 65,000 feet, and a normal cruise speed of between approximately 460 to approximately 510 mph, with a specific fuel consumption of approximately 30 to approximately 42 mpg depending on cruise speed and altitude. Landing stall speed is approximately 70 mph, takeoff and landing speeds are approximately 90 mph, and runway requirements are approximately 3000 ft."

Anonymous ID: 3d9da2 WITH A PT6 IT COULD PROL DO 600+ MPH April 14, 2024, 10:12 p.m. No.20726363   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>6368

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"The Celera 500L has a glide ratio of 22:1 (typical GA aircraft of similar size have a glide ratio of < 9:1). At an altitude of 30,000ft The Celera 500L can glide up to 125 miles with no engine power. This is roughly 3x better than the typical aircraft."

Anonymous ID: 3d9da2 April 14, 2024, 10:14 p.m. No.20726368   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>6373

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Now let's have a look how much laminar flow will be possible. Flight speed is claimed to be 205 m/s in maybe 25,000 ft = 7620 m. The Reynolds number per meter in these conditions is 7,314,000. Flat plate flow shows laminar to turbulent transition at about 400,000. With a stabilizing pressure gradient this can be shifted to maybe 4,000,000. So the first 55 cm of fuselage length will exhibit laminar flow but then turbulent transition is unavoidable. I cannot find dimensions for the Celera 500 L, but I think it is fair to say that laminar flow on the fuselage is insignificant. This corroborates well with other aircraft for which a lot of laminar flow had been claimed.

 

Still, the very clean shape gives it a clear advantage. Add to that high aspect ratio wings with laminar flow, and Otto Aviation's claimed L/D of 22:1 is entirely credible.

 

Now for the engine: Diesels achieve 220 g/kWh since decades. RED gives 210 g/kWh for the A03, which is again entirely credible. The comparison with turbine engines is complicated by the fact that they define specific fuel consumption per unit of thrust, so we need to look at the engine-propeller combination at 205 m/s. The propeller on the Celera 500 L has five blades and a rather small diameter for take-off rotation and to keep tip speeds subsonic, so its efficiency will maybe be 82%. If we run the A03 at 92% which is its stated maximum continuous power of 338 kW, thrust will be 1352 N and fuel efficiency will be 52.5 kg/kNh which is the same number as what the GEnx-1B64 achieves in cruise. Let's be realistic and double that number for a regular small jet engine (Published numbers are for static conditions and cannot be directly compared. Doubling them for cruise conditions is a good approximation. These numbers are representative of older jet engines and grow by a factor of maybe 1.5 for cruise).

 

Now we need L/D figures for small business jets. This source doesn't cover jets but shows that small land airplanes with retractable gear still achieve values between 13:1 and 18:1, so even a combination of a 1950's jet engine and an average airframe will only have four to five times the fuel consumption compared to the Celera 500 L. Four, not eight!

 

For an L/D of <9:1 the comparison airplane needs a fixed gear or floats. With standard design and built any competitor should at least get 13:1 or better.

Anonymous ID: 3d9da2 April 14, 2024, 10:16 p.m. No.20726373   🗄️.is 🔗kun

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Sanity check: If the 22:1 L/D can be sustained up to cruise speed, the whole aircraft cannot weigh more than 3033 kg, which is less than half of a King Air 350 which Otto Aviation uses for cabin size comparisons. The King Air, having a smaller cabin and lighter PT6A engines, still needs an MTOW of 6800 kg. Judge for yourself …

 

Otto Aviation has done everything right, engine choice, propeller position, wing and fuselage layout all support the lowest possible fuel consumption. However, the existing aircraft aren't so poorly made in comparison, either. Also, the installed power looks impossibly low for the claimed cruise speed. In order to fly most efficiently, the Celera 500 L needs to cruise at a much lower speed.

 

Now for the maximum altitude: No, the Celera 500 L will not reach 50,000 ft. Not even close.

 

I know a bit about the Strato 2C. It was too heavy for its intended altitude of 65,000 ft. Wing loading needs to be low enough and the engine has to have enough turbo- and/or superchargers to lift its critical altitude high enough. In case of the Strato 2C, it used two turbocharger stages with inter cooling and one supercharger. The intercoolers determined the size of its engine gondolas, which were huge. Given the small air intakes of the Celera 500 L, it looks like it will only reach 25,000 ft or maybe 30,000 until cooling airflow becomes insufficient to keep the intercoolers supplied. Unless Otto straps a rocket booster to its tail, it will never go to even 50,000 ft.

Anonymous ID: 3d9da2 April 14, 2024, 10:19 p.m. No.20726378   🗄️.is 🔗kun

 

The following claim was made:

 

"Otto Aviation explains that the Celera 500L enjoys a 59% reduction in drag when compared to similar-sized airframes." (Source)

 

I will calculate the Power needed by Celera 500L to fly at 740 km/h assuming its drag is 1-59% that of a Cessna 340, a comparable plane.

 

Cessna-340 Cessna-340 - Crew: one pilot; Capacity: five passengers: Powerplant: 2 × Continental piston engines, 310 hp (230 kW) each; Maximum speed: 244 kn (281 mph, 452 km/h); Range: 1,406 nmi (1,618 mi, 2,604 km)

 

For two planes 1 and 2, if 1 has 59% less drag than 2 then the following equations can be written (1=Celera 500L and 2=Cessna 340):

 

Comparison between Celera 500L and Cessna 340

 

Regarding the fuel consumption in miles per gallon (see the second part of the calculations above), as the diesel engine of Celera 500L has a SFC = 210 gr/kWh and diesel oil has a density of 0.85 kg/l, it results that, at the speed of 740 km/h (engine power = 1115 HP), Celera 500L has a MPG = 8.47 mi/gal

 

If we are to believe this statement:

 

"A 17,000 pound Lear Jet 35, capable of carrying seven people at 485 mph, gets about 4 mpg",

 

then Celera 500L is about 8.47/4 = 2.11 times more fuel efficient than a Lear Jet 35, not 8 times, and it needs an engine of at least 1115 HP to fly at 740 km/h.