Tucker Carlson Interviews Telegram CEO and Founder Pavel Durov
April 17, 2024
There is so much I could discuss from this interview alone it is remarkable; however, I want to focus on two specific points as highlighted: (1) the government interface, and (2) the geopolitical inversion currently underway.
I continue to receive strong negative opinion for my cynicism of Elon Musk. However, pay close attention to what Pavel Durov says about his contacts with U.S. government officials and you will have a stronger baseline to understand part of why I do not trust Musk.
♦ THE TOUCHES – Durov controls Telegram. Durov is the owner and proprietor of Telegram. Durov talks openly about the touches from U.S. intelligence and government officials toward him and his communication platform. He is very open about the contacts by FBI and various intel officials, and notes those conversations were always unnerving.
Now, we ask ourselves: why have we never heard Twitter owner/operator Elon Musk talking about this issue.
Beyond the decade plus of independent research on these issues, we get a very good context for how the IC approaches and interacts with the communication platforms from this interview with Pavel Durov. What he shares does not have to be taken at face value because we have background with which to review it. Everything he said aligns with all the research on these issues we have previously discussed. Quite simply, he’s telling the truth as we know it to be.
That said, where is this conversation from Elon Musk? Where is Musk discussing the government contacts and intentions of the intelligence apparatus, FBI, DHS and various Intelligence Community institutions toward the Twitter platform.
I cannot overlook that Elon Musk was talking about the importance of user privacy and security at the exact same time he was secretly complying with the DOJ to give the metadata of all Donald Trump supporters from his platform. These things do not reconcile, and I refuse to pretend this conflict does not exist.
♦ The INVERSION – I call the change in freedom and liberty values West to East an inversion. Pavel Durov does not note this directly, but he outlines the basic issues within his discussion and experience.
For decades the USA and proverbial “west” transmitted messages of freedom and liberty into the “east.” We are all familiar with radio and television broadcasts, and specifically the content therein, from the free West that were blocked by what we called the oppressive East.
There are millions of stories, movies and books written describing how the west tried to send communication to the east showcasing the value of free markets, liberty, and freedom in general. However, in the past 20 years, since the advent of the internet something very curious has happened.
I can tell you from personal experience that now it is the WEST who are blocking the ability of the people from the EAST to receive the message. If you in the EASTERN zone (grey) and you attempt to engage in several communication platforms that connect to the WESTERN zone (yellow), you are more likely to find yourself blocked by the WEST.
Why would the USA or western alliance block the ability of those outside the west to engage with their platforms? One could make the argument they are putting walls around the USA/WEST not to keep the East out but to keep the west locked-in to a specific narrative.
In the example of Russia, I originally thought the blocking issue was exclusive to banking and finance; however, the restricted interface extends beyond those explainable by sanctions. In the modern communication era, some information is more equal than others.
What Pavel outlines about the Russian government asking him for data on users, is identical to what the Twitter files outlined about the U.S government asking the platform for users. Pavel refused to participate; Jack Dorsey willingly participated.
More to follow…
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/04/17/tucker-carlson-interviews-telegram-ceo-and-founder-pavel-durov/
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