Stephanopoulos: What's your plan to turn the campaign around?

Mr. Biden: Saw it today. How many [inaudible] draw crowds like I drew today?

Stephanopoulos: I don't think you want to play the crowd game. Donald Trump can draw big crowds, there's no question about that.

Mr. Biden: He can draw a big crowd, but what's he say? Who's he have?

[Biden spoke to a couple hundred people in a school gymnasium]