Progressives enraged as Democrats reportedly privately admit Trump isn't an 'existential threat to democracy'(KEK, the truth drips out, like it must, who’s the real threat to democracy? Bidan?)

Joseph Wulfsohn Thu, July 11, 2024 at 7:00 AM EDT·

Liberals on social media seethed in reactionto Democratic lawmakers reportedly admitting behind the scenes that former President Trump isn't a "threat to democracy" as their party loudly claims.

New York Times columnist Ezra Klein appeared on The Bulwark Podcast Tuesday and revealed what "top Democrats" have told him off the record as they panic over whether they should support or abandon President Biden on their ticket.

"People are weighing this set of things. Like, ‘It would be quite unpleasant for me personally to come out against the president as an elected official in theDemocratic Party,' and weighing what will happen if Donald Trump wins, and saying, in a revealed preference way, ‘I can live with Donald Trump winning,’" Klein said. "And I've heard people say that to me off the record, to be fair-"

• New York Times columnist Ezra Klein said "top Democrats" told him that they don't actually think former President Trump is an "existential threat to democracy."

• "Really?" podcast host Tim Miller reacted.

•"I've had top Democrats say to me, basically, say something like, ‘I don’t know why all these Democrats who think Donald Trump is an existential threat to democracy are acting the way they are. But the reason I'm acting the way I am is because I don't think that,'" Klein continued.

• "Who the f— is this?" an angered Miller exclaimed. "Out your sources, Ezra!"

• "I find it maddening, but I do find it consistent," Klein responded.

• Klein later told Miller, "I think you have to at some point say, whatever these Democrats are saying in public, they're more resigned and more willing to just be the resistance to a Trump presidency than a lot of their public-facing rhetoric would suggest."

• "You have a calm voice, but you're skyrocketing my f-ing blood pressure right now," Miller said. "Ezra, I'm just, like, so f-ing mad."

• Former President Trump has seen a bump in the polls following last month's presidential debate.

• Miller shared the "GALLING exchange" on X, sparking anger among other anti-Trump voices.

• "Absolutely f—ing enraging," former Obama speechwriter and Pod Save America co-host Jon Favreau reacted.

• "Correction: I was not being much too easy on the Democrats. I was being much, much, much too easy on them," New York Magazine writer Jonathan Chait said.

• Progressive activist Aaron Regunberg posted, "This is a story with actual, legitimate villains. Here they are. May they rot in hell."

• "If a party is filled with this many useless people, there is no reason for it to exist," Vox writer Sean Illing said.

• Washington Post assignment editor Damir Marusic remarked, "It’s so quaint, the idealism. It’s as if people living in a city devoted to politics don’t understand politics at all."

President Biden shocked the nation with his disastrous debate performance, sparking calls for him to step out of the 2024 race.

Rep. Jared Golden, D-Maine, offered a similar sentiment publicly in an op-ed published in the Bangor Daily News with the headline"Donald Trump is going to win the election and democracy will be just fine."Biden is facing mounting pressure to withdraw from the presidential race despite vowing to remain on the ballot til November following his disastrous debate performance.

Democrats on Capitol Hill have been facing turmoil in recent weeks, with many publicly supporting Biden but reportedly expressing otherwise in private.

Wednesday night Vermont Sen. Peter Welch joined eight House Democrats in calling for Biden to step aside. Several members of the media have also been vocal in calling for his removal from the ticket.

Hollywood A-lister and Democratic megadonor George Clooney, who co-hosted Biden's star-studded fundraiser in Los Angeles just weeks before the debate, penned a scathing essay in The New York Times calling for a new nominee. "It’s devastating to say it, but the Joe Biden I was with three weeks ago at the fund-raiser was not the Joe "big F-ing deal" Biden of 2010. He wasn’t even the Joe Biden of 2020. He was the same man we all witnessed at the debate," Clooney wrote.

https://news.yahoo.com/news/progressives-enraged-democrats-reportedly-privately-110059957.html

Democrats say calls to replace Biden after primaries aren't 'threat to democracy,' a charge lobbed at Trump

Julia Johnson Wed, July 10, 2024 at 2:28 PM EDT· (If they cannot define what a threat to democracy means, they should drop the bullshit fearmongering)

Democrats in the Senate said calls from elites and celebrities to replace President Biden on the Democrat ticket didn't indicate a "threat to democracy," despite the fact that primary voters across the country have already cast their votes in support of Biden.

Lawmakers in the Democratic Party have frequently discussed a variety of threats to America's system of governance, with a particular focus on former President Trump and his possible re-election.

Fox News Digital asked several lawmakers whether calls to replace Biden after his election in the primaries were a threat to democracy in the same fashion that some have described Trump's rise to the top of the Republican ticket.

"I don't think there is any comparison whatsoever. Zero. No comparison," said Sen. Angus King, I-Maine, who caucuses with Democrats.

Several House Democrats have called on Biden, the leader of their party, to withdraw from the race. Reps. Angie Craig, D-Minn.; Lloyd Doggett, D-Texas; Raul Grijalva, D-Ariz.; Seth Moulton, D-Mass.; Mike Quigley, D-Ill.; Mikie Sherrill, D-N.J.; and Adam Smith, D-Wash., have made such calls. In addition, multiple celebrities and Democratic megadonors have pressured the president to drop out of the race as confidence in his ability to beat Trump continues to fall.

Sen. Chris Murphy, D-Conn., didn't remark on those calls, noting, "I just speak for myself, so I can give you my views. I'm not going to characterize or comment on other people's views."

Notably, he has pointed to Trump, claiming the former president "presents an existential threat to democracy."

When posed the same question, Sen. Jon Ossoff, D-Ga., remarked: "In Georgia, former President Trump was caught on tape pressuring and threatening the statewide senior-most election administration official to, quote, find the exact number of votes that he needed to win and by which he had lost."

"That misconduct is utterly appalling. It should be unacceptable to every elected official in the country, to every member of the Republican Party. It should be disqualifying for former President Trump, for every Republican elected official in the country," he added.

Per Sen. Alex Padilla, D-Calif., "I can appreciate, I think, concerns my colleagues have had, but we got our answer from the president on Monday."

"We have 117 days left between now and the November election. It's time [to get] back to work," he said, reiterating his support for Biden to remain on the Democratic ticket but not addressing whether a threat to democracy is presented by calls for Biden to step down.

Democratic strategist Kaivan Shroff, however, said the calls could rise to the level of undermining democracy.

"Donald Trump is the singular greatest threat to democracy and yes, in trying to undermine our Democratic primary winner Joe Biden this late in the game — and invalidate the primary votes of millions in our party across the country — I do feel that democracy is at risk if the game playing does not stop," he said.

"We should be laser focused on building the same winning coalition that elected the Biden-Harris ticket in the first place," Shroff added.

https://news.yahoo.com/news/democrats-calls-replace-biden-primaries-182845794.html

Joe Rogan Experience #2173 - Jimmy Dore, trashing Bill Maher, he doesn't know anything

2:43:21

https://youtu.be/VGSyGrWWbhA?si=rDF2oBNAa3Rs7XMC

Biden’s Call With Hispanic Lawmakers Goes Off the Rails

The call ended abruptly after Rep. Mike Levin asked Biden to withdraw from the race. Soon after, Levin formally called on Biden to step down as the nominee.

July 12, 2024 02:43 PM | Updated: July 12, 2024 03:53 PM

As President Joe Biden tries to talk with Democratic lawmakers and relieve their concerns, a virtual meeting with members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus on Friday appears to have caused more problems than it solved.

For starters, Biden showed up an hour late to the Zoom call, according to a source familiar with the meeting, and it didn’t get much better from there.

Organizers of the Zoom meeting had said only two members were allowed to ask questions — Reps. Sylvia Garcia and Lou Correa — but Biden opened the floor up to more questions, the source familiar with the call told NOTUS. At least the president tried to open up the meeting to more questions.

The source said the campaign tightly controlled who could ask a question on the call. Reps. Gabe Vasquez and Marie Gluesenkamp Perez both used the “raise hand” feature on the Zoom call,and both had their hands lowered by organizers of the call and were not allowed to speak, the source said.

Of the lawmakers who did get to ask Biden a question, Correa told Biden that Latino voters need to hear from him and urged the president to “talk to these families and say to them, there is a pathway in my second administration for all of you that have been here for decades, that have followed the laws, that have paid taxes to be part of the American dream,” according to a partial transcript of the call obtained by NOTUS.

Biden responded that he strongly agreed “with every word you just said, not a joke.” “I’m being deadly earnest,” Biden said, according to the transcript.

“We’re in a situation where, that’s why I used the executive action, for example, to make sure that over a million Latinos who are married to an American citizen are, get complete access to citizenship, and get — you get a green card now,” Biden said, claiming that would “change the dynamic in a big way.”

Of the Democrats who weren’t preordained to speak but were still able to ask a question was Rep. Mike Levin. Levin’s question, however, was more of a comment:He said it was time for someone else to lead the party, and he called on Biden to step down as the nominee.

The president responded by trying to ease concerns about his age.

“That’s — that was great when you were feeling good, Biden, are you OK now? That’s what’s underlying,” Biden said, according to the partial transcript.

“That’s what people are worried about. ‘I’ve got a grandfather who’s 85 years old, and he can’t walk.’ It’s a legitimate concern for people, but that’s why I think it’s important I gotta get out and show people everything from how well I move to how much I know and that I’m still in good charge.”

Biden said he had time for one more question. But the host — Rep. Linda T. Sánchez — ended the meeting anyway.

Still, Levin managed to get the last word. Soon after the call, the San Diego-area congressman became the 19th congressional Democrat to call on Biden to withdraw from the race.

The Biden campaign declined to comment on this story.

https://www.notus.org/biden-2024/biden-call-hispanic-lawmakers-off-the-rails

3 HOURS AGO-JACK MONTGOMERY ELECTION 2024

KASSAM: Is The October Surprise Biden’s Demise?

Raheem Kassam, Editor-in-Chief of The National Pulse, believes Joe Biden’s death could prove to be the ‘October Surprise’ in the U.S. election, even if the so-called “Clinton diaspora” has to “make it happen.

”Citing an Axios report that quotes a Bill Clinton administration official as saying the “Clinton diaspora is freaking the hell out”about Biden’s reelection prospects, Kassam referred his social media followers to a podcast from Thursday where he raised the possibility of the 81-year-old dying.

“You had a snap election in the UK, and you had a snap election in France,” Kassam said on the podcast. “There’s a globalist theme for 2024. I just would not be surprised—do not put it past them—to watch Joe Biden die on his feet in front of the American public.

Maybe not literally, but literally to pass away, a week, two weeks, three weeks before an election, and then, boom, it’s a snap election, it’s a snap candidate.

”In these circumstances, Kassam said, the Democrats could strongly benefit from a “sympathy vote.”“And the sympathy vote… Go and look at that [Barry] Goldwater blowout if you need reminding of that,” he advised.

“A sympathy vote just can take enough away from the moderates and the independents. Can [bring out] a lot to the people who were going to stay at home, not vote for Biden. Suddenly, you’re in a different situation,” he stressed.

Barry Goldwater was the Republican challenger to Lyndon B. Johnson, who became President after the assassination of John F. Kennedy Jr, in 1964.

Goldwater had been expecting to challenge Kennedy, having been the frontrunner for the Republican nomination prior to his 1963 assassination. He faced heavy backlash because he publicly criticized Kennedy before his death, despite their personal friendship.

Johnson carried all but six states.

https://thenationalpulse.com/2024/07/12/kassam-is-the-october-surprise-bidens-demise/

Nate Silver

@NateSilver538

Today's forecast update is out.

More of the same – though, if you squint, Biden is at his lowest number yet, at a 27% chance of winning the Electoral College vs. 35% pre-debate.

https://natesilver.net/p/nate-silver-2024-president-election-polls-model

https://x.com/NateSilver538/status/1811819880615952493

Silver Bulletin 2024 presidential election forecast

All the numbers you really care about.

NATE SILVER AND ELI MCKOWN-DAWSON JUL 12, 2024

Let’s cut to the chase: So, who’s gonna win the election?

Well, honestly, we don’t know — but we can give you our best probabilistic guess. This is the landing page for the 2024 Silver Bulletin presidential election forecast. It will always contain the most recent data from the model.1

The model is the direct descendant of the f/k/a FiveThirtyEight election forecast2 and the methodology is largely the same, other than removing COVID-19 provisions introduced for 2020. (Other changes are documented here.3) If you’ve received this post by email or are viewing it on the Substack app, we strongly recommend that you instead use the web version for interactive charts. Charts in the app don’t update when we add new data, so switch over to your browser to see our most up-to-date forecast.

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🕒 Last update: 1:45 p.m, Friday, July 12: Today’s a good example of the importance of house effects.Two new national polls came out, with Biden trailing Trump by only 1 point in a Marist poll, but by 6 points in a Rasmussen survey. (FYI: this is in the version with third-party candidates included — that’s always the version our model uses.) However, Marist has given Biden some of his best numbers all cycle and Rasmussen some of his worst. (As it typically does; Rasmussen has a long history of strongly Republican-leaning numbers.)

Adjust for that, as our model does, and both polls are consistent with a world in which Biden trails Trump by around 3 points nationally, which implies a poor position in the Electoral College. In fact, Biden’s Electoral College win probability is the lowest to date in our forecast, having slipped to about 1-in-4.

The polls: who’s ahead right now?

The Silver Bulletin polling averages are a little fancy. They adjust for whether polls are conducted among registered or likely voters, the presence or absence of RFK Jr., and house effects. They weight more reliable polls more heavily. And they use national polls to make inferences about state polls and vice versa. It requires a few extra CPU cycles — but the reward is a more stable average that doesn’t get psyched out by outliers.

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The forecast: so you’re telling me there’s a chance?

Needless to say, stranger things have happened than a candidate who was behind in the polls winning. And in America’s polarized political climate, most elections are close and a candidate is rarely out of the running. So here is how our model translates polls and the other inputs it uses into probabilities in the Electoral College and the popular vote in every state — plus some nightmare scenarios like a repeat of the 2000 Florida recount. (It’s more likely than you might think, alas.) We’re not afraid of playing the percentages here — even to the decimal place.

https://www.natesilver.net/p/nate-silver-2024-president-election-polls-model