Do we try and amass the masses for the SOTU event? Permission to post up the battleplan from last thread that i made?
Hey Eurtw. How long will you be up tonight?
Ill be trying to stay up to atleast coordinate until SOTU hits.
I can try and direct people to your cone message (saved offline) and give a general push to said event thats going on.
Ill be on discord. 8ch is half assing me and giving me 522/502 errors all night. Will coordinate via it atleast untill the SOTU is over.
This is somewhat my fault friend-o. I posted the pastebin before you made your cone one. I think it got linked up with the Qgeneral one so there are two "plans".
One permanent (made here) and one SOTU related.
My connection is completely nuked.
Anyone seeing this, and able to take hand off.
Focus fire on SOTU. Move over and hijack Dems response hashtag.
This is ridiculous. 3-4 minutes online. 20~minutes off. Someones fucking with us
Well. Not to be that guy but i did say that SOTU would have good traffic.
I tried getting people on the same page for that day (it was a limited event. So that 600k graph is kinda misleading in a way. its 600k for just -that- day and event).
Thats why there should be some permanent hashes (obamagate/releasethememo/treason ect.), secondary hashes (cant think of any right now. tiered) aux/weave/sparkle hashes (THIS IS A REALLY SMART IDEA AND ITS MY LOVE CHILD!!)
But we should have "limited edition" hashes.
State of the union. The Grammy award. The Emmy award. The Oscars. Events / happenings will ALWAYS gather a lot of twats. Its easy to hop on in them and redpill. BUT THEY ARE LIMITED EDITION HIJACKS
They stay relevant for a day TOPS. Then the interest and activity on it dies quick.
Hah! eah i know, sparkles was a better name for it anyway.
So. Heres what im getting from all of this. Our usual hashes that we determined in previous threads have different "priorities" right?
Im wondering if its such a smart idea to mix in "our" hashes with trending ones. I have no idea how the shadowbanning of hashes work (I know they got GreatAwakening, for example, MAGA is getting dampened too)
The Think im going for is. What if its not just icecream in the cone?
People wont eat the ice cream if they cant see the ice cream.
What if one of the issues we might be having is that even though we hijack a trend and "add" scoops too it. People still cant see it? Due to the "scoop shadowbanning" ?
graph will never show shadow banning sadly. There is honestly no way of really knowing.
i mean look at http :// tweeplers.com/hashtags/?cc=US
and you'll see MAGA and Release the memo high up on numbers. But on twatter it doesn't show them anywhere.
This is why i assume we might need a different tactic than just creating a new hash everytime a event (that we want to push) comes up.
You can shadow ban hashes and users. We know that much. Right?
YOu can always make a new account. But the a-typical trending hashes? Cant really ban those. Not at all.
So heres an idea
We wait a week, and look up the normal trending hashes that always occur on those days (WednesdayWisdom eg,)
We Use those hashes to push out our redpill information.
At the same time. We keep push the normal ones (Ice cream ones) But keep them seperated completely.
So One tweet maybe goes "#ObamaGate sure #Sucks ! I would #love some justice to be had! #Maga!!"
The other one is " #(The one that is used that day, #WednesdayWisdom as an example) #WednesdayWisdom Did you know, that %%Information%%"
Could something like that work? We're covering two sides of a coin, trying to stay out of the "This looks like botting" area and still dispensing redpills?
I am just worried that Twatter is on the warpath when it comes to hiding whats actually trending and whats not.
I think you're mistaking the idea.
If you make two tweets per hour (as an example).
Writing one with C.O.N.E. And another with a Trojan horse style hijack.
I did this a little when we where pushing "GreatAwakening" and "fakenews".
The ones who got most Impressions was the ones without GreatA and FakeN in them.
I think this happens because people browse the trending hashes. to look around (Just like #Love #happy #Fake , ect).
Im not saying we're doing something wrong. But its worth investigating if we can get more traction simply using "trending topics" instead of Release the memo (cause, according to tweeplers that should be second place on "trending". but its not. The only one seeing those tweets are the one actively browsing #releaseTheMemo)
I think the C.O.N.E is a solid idea. You've done great.
But i think we're getting countered on the fact that it doesn't show up on the trending topics. No matter how many million tweets we throw at it.
I think there needs to be a new form of attack. Guerilla style.
Maybe even writing "normal" tweets into those hashtags. but using infographics with Redpills.
Yeah, Totally innocent and totally none hyperbole word. the "normal" stuff we see on trending every day.
Say its.. "#saturdayFunday" or something like that.
Use it as a trojan horse to push infographics. (Like the Q post about Democrats vs Republican voters)
I Think this gives us a better chance to reach NEW people. Cause the only ones seeing #ReleaseTheMemo and our other tags are the ones who already browse those tags to begin with.
This is where we are failing i think. Even though ReleaseT has over a million tweets. No one is seeing them cause (((They))) aren't making it visable.
If we circumvent this, by abusing other, innocent hashes it could completely circumvent the view blockade.
I mean sure. Its cool to know we created a Hash with several million tweets in them.
But what use is a hashtag if no one but us see it?
Ok.
Been talking to a few people and the impression seem to be that we're getting good impressions on our agreed hashes. but we cant seem to reach trending hashes regardless.
Propose new mission to try and reach more normies?
I think you're misunderstanding me.
Its not that we cant reach people with our tweets. Its that we cant get visability.
It doesn't matter if its 50 million tweets an hour. If no one actually sees the tweets (On the left side trending page on twitter) Our work is nullified.
Think of it like this. "Normal hashes" get to play in the pastures. "Our hashes" get told to play in the forest. Even though there are 'more' of us than there are "normal hashes".
Here. Just a quick mock up. On the right side you see the Twitters own "trending topics In america". These are the hashes that are publicly opened and "OK" to show.
On the left side. you have ALL the other hashes that have way more tweets. But dont show up as a "trending topic".
What im saying is that if we are to actively redpill people. We need to force them to "hide" one of their own "OK" hashes. Release the memo has WAAAY more tweets than any of the other hashes on "Twitters OK trending topics". But it doesn't show up on 'trending'.
Do you see what i mean?
And untill our hashes get actual visability. We need to abuse that system that already is in place. This is the issue. We can scream all we want in an empty room, no one is hearing and thats what we should change. We need to scream in a room that isn't empty.
50~ followers. 0 retweets. Strictly C.O.N.E posting. ~100 impressions.
Talking then.
If we talk about an issue in an empty room. No one hears us. If we talk in rooms that are occupied. People hear us.
This is important. We can talk all we want, we could be thousand upon thousand of people talking in these empty rooms. But it wont ever matter if no one is there to listen to us.
We need to start talking in rooms that aren't empty.
We shouldn't hypothesize the idea of a big User retweeting. We dont know the chance of them doing that.
Sure, it will place the tweet in their flow, absolutely. But the chance of it happening is so so slim.
It would be easier just to @ a big user then, but we dont know if it'll even show up if we use our hashes.
This is where i think to problem is.I think We need to scrap current hashes cause we cant reach those big number Users who retweet things. because they cant see our tweets.
Yes, you should click it. Because it shows us stats like the one in the picture. You can only do it for your own tweets.
And didn't have time to see your response either. Would have retweeted if i knew. Not always online.
We need to know the analytics cause its the surefire way of knowing which kind of tweets hits the mark and which doesn't. The more "impressions" and "egagements" we get the better.
This is why i once again recommend looking if theres a chance we could do better by just hijacking stuff and @ important people.
Cause once again. It wont matter how many people tweet into an empty space where no one is able to listen. No one listens =//= no red pilling.
Seriously guys?!
Its nothing to do with practice, We need to know which style of tweets get better traction.
Does a C.O.N.E get better analytics than Hijacking a trending topic. This is what we should want to know. I have no idea why you wouldn't want to know if its important to the work we're doing.
I dont want to sound harsh but i feel like you two suddenly and completely stopped listening to my advice and just ignore it instead.
If we want to spread redpills. You and me cant talk alone, right? We have to tell others about it.
If we cant make people come to us. We should come to them, and not tell them where we're from.
This is the idea.
And as we haven't seen any numbers yet (im trying to get people on discord to spit them out) Mixing is completely half and half (aka C.O.N.E) and The usually best tweets seem to contain less hashes.
Seriously, Show me your numbers so we can crunch them together. We have to know what works and what doesn't Not just shoot off tweets and hope for the best. Citing "tweets per hour" instead of "impressions and engagements".
#MyHappyPlaceIn4Words (((Highest ranking Trending right now))) ? A Place where #peace and #Unity (((sprinkles/weaves))) is stronger and #WeThePeople lay the groundwork for the #greatawakening and refuse to listen to #fakenews (((3 Scoops))) @Potus @OfficialCBC
I will break it down now why i dont think these will get much traction, and why i DO think they get traction.
1: They get traction due to abusing the Trending hashtag. These are easily accesable to the people who "normally" uses twitter.
2: The sparkles/weave work, because they are random, short words that stick longer, Should be overly dramatic words (Imho #treason is one of those words as well)
3: I Dont think it will work overusing a hashtag we repeatedly use and has hit Tweeplers "top 10" without showing up on the left hand side on twitter. This + the "Oh its just russian bots, so lets shadow the whole hash" will most likely spill over regardless if we add anything to the tweet.
And this is the problem i want/need adressed. We cant shoot off tweets we "think hit" and not look at the numbers of them. Thats why im asking for your analytics so we can compare. Hell ill even open up a completely new account and strictly push on trending topics to see if my idea holds water.
We need to crunch the numbers anon. Its as simple as that. We can do the guessing game all night long and its not going to take us anywhere.
Ok. So i've spent an hour last night before going to bed. And about an hour this morning looking into this.
So, regarding C.O.N.E. I think i found a problem.
Ok, So we have 3 categories here. "None isolated" "controversial" and "Isolated"
None isolated = "Normal hashes, Eg WednesdayWisdom"
Controversial = "ReleaseTheMemo
Isolated = eg: GreatAwakening, Obamagate.
Ok. What i've seen is that only two of these groups seems to go through.
None isolated topics are not touched at all. They go through like they should and end up on "latest". Controversial hashes NEED to hich on a None Isolated to gain visability (Eg. #WednesdayWisdom + releasethe memo). This shows its works. Most likely due to the fact that the Hash is a "real" one (according to them), but a controversial. So while its not directly banned. It is hidden (Suspecting #Maga is 'controversial' too)
Then we have the totally isolated ones.
Isolated ones seems only "show up" on controversial hashes, but they dont seem to go over into the twittersphere, regardless if you use a None-isolated hash (Eg. #Obamagate + #releasethememo + #WednesdayWisdom together to not work. #obamagate + #WednesdayW.. Together do not work. But #releaseTheMemo + #wenesdayWisdom works)
Remember, we want to reach the twitterspehere. We dont want to be stuck in our boxes.
We know #ReleaseTheMemo is a controversial one. We know #greatawakening is a Isolated one.
Get in here EurtwTF@g.
This is important
Not talking about blocked or banned here. "isolated". They exist, yes, but you have to go directly to the hash to see them. And even then, if your account is Shadowed, wont even matter.
see >>239667 , I can get into his account but i cannot see anything on "latest". Regardless of him using @potus.
Was not giving orders, merely marking this up as important cause i wanted your two cents in on the theory.
Ill run it by you again cause i seem to have not done a good job at describing myself.
Ok. On Twitter there is a "trending topic" Right? These are what Twitter thinks of as "none isolated". These are things that "normal people" tweet about.
Ok. In come a group of people who want to push a hashtag that Twitter maybe doesn't like. They call these "controversial" tweets.
Controversial tweets get their 3-4 hour of "stage time", then Twitter determines that theres no more fun allowed. And removes them from The Trending topic list (Marked on the picture with "1").
But the Hashtag still exist. It still gets tweets and its getting talked about.
But even if it somehow had 1 milion more tweets. It woudln't come up on (List marked with 1).
Now what i found, And ill try and capture it next time and not just go by word of mouth. Was that #ReleaseTheMemo could "follow" a trending topic tweet.
I did try and search for our other predetermined hashtags (#obamagate , #greatawakening) but they refused to show up on the "Trending hashtag", even though i saw them existing on the Flavour scoop hash (if that makes better sense?)
So, What im trying to say is that we're not getting "blocked" from tweeting it ( what did you say? 9 million Tp/h ?) It still wont show up on "Trending topics"
Did i explain better now?
Using the Ice cream analogy.
The people can only eat the Cone and the sparkles. They are hesitant on trying the ice cream scoops because the ice cream company doesn't like us selling them and keeps those locked up in the back.
If that made better sense? Its not that we're getting throttled (wrong word excuse me) but we're not getting let in with the cool kids. Even though we have enough tweets.
If you dont want to wait for proof. Hopp on the #MemoDay and try to find a #greatawakening and/or #obamagate that you didn't post yourself or someone you followed retweeted.
Seriosuly,I cant find any at all. #releasethememo shows up thogh.