Thought the same. He has a great podcast because he has great conversations. For years this anon couldn't tell what side he leaned to. He hid it well, because he was there to talk to a guest and got them to share it in an intriguing way.
When everything got political he slipped a bit but still never demeaned a guest.. not that this anon watches every show. Think because him and POTUS meet all the time people assumed. But that is America, people coming together for things they enjoy despite some of those viewpoints.