I like Dr. Berry was he's become to extreme the other way. No tea or coffee because they contain ONE carb??
Yeah. I want balance, not extreme
There are populations, all over the world, who have no obesity and the mainstay of their diet is bread or rice.
Most of our ancestors were not fat and bread, corn, peas, beans, etc were their mainstay and they were not obese. It's not the carbs.
Keto works well for those who cannot tolerate carbs (diabetes, etc) For the average person with no diabetes, etc, it's not the bread and rice. It has to be what's added to those products.