Many years ago, I watched a tv show, Dateline, 20/20, one of these type documentary investigative report shows. It was all about a Operation Raven,I think, my memory? Anyway it told the story of these who were called the Five Ravens. These two were part of it. Maybe Kissinger as well. It was how they groomed George Bush to become President, long before he was even in politics. Then how they got him elected. Tied into Iran/Iraq war and 911. I think the show was called the Five Ravens.
I have gone back through search engines to find this show without luck, maybe better tech anon could find it. It would be very pertinent to what is coming to light now.