Think he said it was a bad joke that went way too far, or something like that. He also says he has some chat logs I'd be very interested in reading myself.
That's how it used to be. Then we had the War of 1812, England burned the original White House, and we started getting flooded with British Accreditation Registry associated Attourneys. Now the main stream internet says it was never ratified like and change how history worked again.
Some sauce for TONA amendment
https://themillenniumreport.com/2017/04/confirmed-the-original-thirteenth-amendment-was-ratified-and-then-improperly-removed/