adnromeda ID: 0dc718 Dec. 29, 2024, 4:15 p.m. No.22252784   🗄️.is 🔗kun

Veiling is not about Modesty (and it can even be Immodest)

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What is the purpose of Veiling? If you were to look at some other religions, the answer you would get is "modesty". To discuss veiling, we must first discuss Modesty and "modesty". The idea goes, the more of the body covered = the more modest it is. But Christianity (and especially Eastern Orthodox Christianity) is much different than any other religion in the world. Thus, our view on Modesty is much different.

 

Modesty, in our faith, is not about being covered in the Worldly sense; it is about blending in and going unnoticed. This is where the middlingly correct idea of the "heart posture" comes into play(1). It is hypothetically possible to clad oneself in an ankle-length floral dress and a lovely veil and still be immodest if one is doing it with the intention of attracting the attention of pious men. It is always immodest to dress in a way that provokes, intentionally or unintentionally, such as overly flashy clothing or jewelry, or dress that is very foreign to the culture where you are visiting or residing. Likewise, it is also possible to be modest in a garment that leaves the wearer nearly naked, as in a swimsuit at the beach, where that is the expected attire.

 

The actual purpose of the Veil, especially in a Prayerful or Liturgical setting, is an expression of a portion of our Theology of the Church, the Eucharist, and Jesus. The Church is a woman, a Wisdom to whom all Priests and Bishops are married. All Orthodox Christians are the bride of Christ, though the men and women among us express this truth in different ways. The Eucharist is, theologically, the fruit of the marital union between the celebrant and the Church. Our Christian theology, down to its very core, is marital. The veil is marital garb.

 

The primary pieces of scripture Christians cite in favor of Veiling are 1 Corinthian's 11:5, " But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven," (KJV), and 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18, "Rejoice evermore. Pray without ceasing. In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you," (KJV). Taken together, many would say that women must, at least, cover their hair/heads in Church and during prayer in general. Many would further say that this implies women should veil all the time, or at least in public.

 

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But why is that? Is a woman's hair immodest? Is it indecent to show one's hair or head in public? Fortunately, no. No part of the body in Christianity is considered intrinsically indecent or shameful. On the contrary– every part of the body is valuable and good, and it is only the Fall that brings shame upon them. What is indecent and what is acceptable is determined by the society you find yourself in. If we find ourselves in a community that believes elbows are the height of inflammatory sexuality, I should hope we all cover them with only the thickest of wool shrouds.

 

In the Old Testament, a woman covering her hair is a symbol of marriage, first and foremost. This is not only true in the Hebraic culture of the OT, but also in most antique cultures across the Middle East and the Mediterranean both in the OT, and in the Gospels and the Epistles. Unlike what many young Orthodox women say, the veil is not a symbol of submission, either at least not any more than a wedding ring is today or the veil of Hebrew women was. The veil of a Christian woman is the expression of a theological truth wearable ecclesiology and Christology.

 

1) Much of the discussion of heart posture, especially in protestant circles, is simply an excuse to wear crop tops to Church in the name of personal piety. Another post on this shall follow. A good rule of thumb is that heart posture always condemns, never excuses.

adnromeda ID: 0dc718 Dec. 29, 2024, 5:27 p.m. No.22253245   🗄️.is 🔗kun

here I thought H1 B is a thing about fucking, a fighter jet and its you squabbling over land with pajeets? they think witches live in toilets I hear so your streets might get more shit up if you let them in there should be a standard for a nation I believe I'm voting no on it but if Melania wants to sub for Elon or Trump like rely owe Elon I can see it going trhough its just kind of un trump so idk whats going on I vote no on it trump dont let him bully you

 

that said I respect the punjabs indians and whatever cause they work dairys in nz and I get my smokes from them so I wouldn't say they is bad just like what are you specifically bringing them in cause the schools are failing? thats sad look to education first. my physics teacher was indian too he was cool but I keep forgetting how a capcitor works some spell on it idk

adnromeda ID: 0dc718 Dec. 29, 2024, 5:34 p.m. No.22253282   🗄️.is 🔗kun

H1B is cuckjohn by Elon behaviour to test Trumps values

 

Don't back down Trump

 

Thanks your support Melania won't let you down.