Anonymous ID: 84539b Jan. 30, 2025, 6:46 a.m. No.22467020   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7036 >>7094

>>22466804

>>22466580 lb

And Sec. Duffy is correct. If the Sikorsky was on a squawk code and I am positive it was, then the crew of the CRJ would not have needed per say, to be looking out the window for it although they certainly would have been. TCAS II would have initially painted the helicopter 10 miles or farther depending on where each crew member had their display set, as a white diamond on the display system showing altitude, direction of flight, climb and descent information.

 

Azimuth information can go out as far as 150 miles on these things and it can be lowered to 5 miles with a 2 1/2 mile arc at the mid point of the display. This would also depict the "Threat" up to and at, the current position of the CRJ.

 

But way before that point the TCAS would have issued a caution alert (TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC) and the crew would have been looking in the correct direction for the helicopter. Not something you want to hear at 300' on a short final. The TCAS systems query each other in all aircraft equiped with them. It lets you know what the "other guy" is doing. Heard a report this morning that the Sikorsky is not equiped with TCAS.

 

If the flight paths of the two aircraft are computed to intersect each other this is when the caution alert is issued and if nothing changes at the 90 second point before potential impact happens, a "WARNING" alert sounds. The WARNNING alert issues an escape manuver in this situation and instructs the crew to either "CLIMB, CLIMB" or "DESCEND, DESCEND". In this situation the TCAS would not have issued a DESCEND, DESCEND warning to the CRJ crew as they were only 300 feet above touchdown elevation.

 

Rotorcraft traffic have a specific corridor that is required to go up and down the Potomac River east of KDCA and it's been this way for decades. This includes direction of flight and altitude restrictions. On a 3 degree glipe slope to RWY 33 and the CRJ at less than a 1/2 mile from touchdown, there is no way in hell that helicopter should have been where it was at the altitude it was, when it collided with the CRJ. The helicopter was too far west of the standard route for the altitude they were flying at.

This will be deemed to be "pilot error" on behalf of the helicopter crew or as anon is saying, there is fuckery afoot here. At this point, there is no way to tell……………yet.

God bless all those people and their families. 16 years without a fatal airline accident and that ended last night.

Anonymous ID: 84539b Jan. 30, 2025, 6:53 a.m. No.22467065   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7102

>>22467036

That is a good question anon and I really don't know the answer to that. I would suspect that it would not. ATC would still paint the helicopter but there would be no info depicted on their display.

Anonymous ID: 84539b Jan. 30, 2025, 6:59 a.m. No.22467094   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>22467067

>>22467020

^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

You are correct anon. I do not suspect any fuckery here as I believe it will be determinded that the helicopter was to far west of the prescribed corridor to be flying at the altitude it was at.

Anonymous ID: 84539b Jan. 30, 2025, 7:04 a.m. No.22467130   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7149

>>22467097

I retired almost 5 years ago and the ADS-B was relatively new. Airline I flew for had not yet incorporated it in the aircraft. Gonna check the vid you posted anon. Thanks.

Anonymous ID: 84539b Jan. 30, 2025, 7:19 a.m. No.22467226   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>22467097

Good information anon. I suspected that the CRJ had initially been cleared for either the ILS RWY 01 or River Visual which in either case, the crew would have had the ILS for 01 up and flying it eithere way. SOP. Perhaps they requested a circle to land to RWY 33 for whatever reason. Shorter taxi time to the gate etc…. or due to traffic ATC may have asked them if they could accept the circle to land to 33.

Anonymous ID: 84539b Jan. 30, 2025, 7:26 a.m. No.22467287   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7296

Oh………………let's hear the REEEEEEEEEEEE'N from the prog/communist that are going to throw every nonsense, inane thing they can throw at him. Kash is well equiped to deal with these filthy motherfuckers. Take em' down Kash. Take em' down!!!!