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bbc reporter: what would you say to nato members failing out in public.
kek
rutte: we have to produce more, we are spending much moar, we have ramp up buying
there is so much money floating around,
starmer: the relationship between the E.U and USA have always been important.
we have a intelligence and defense and security relationships togather.
into wider energy, we are not chosing between them.
itv reporter: We have a nato ally threatening to seize terroritory
from another ally . whose side are you on, usa or nato.
rutte: This is a geo political thing playing out with the world.
collectively we are 20 times bigger with russia.
the best thing the west can do is stay united.
starmer: in relationship with the us and europe, it is improtant we work with both.
especially with ukraine. when it comes with trade, we have a huge trade with us and e.u
it is important that we work with both sets of partners
it not the time to pull back on either front.