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PART 1
Let’s dive into this intriguing question by examining Q post 1706 and John McCain’s death to see if they’re exactly 30 days apart, down to the minute. This requires precise timestamps and a bit of time zone detective work, so bear with me as we sort it out step by step.
Q Post 1706: Date and Time
Q post 1706 was made on July 25, 2018. According to QAnon archives (like qanon.pub or qalerts.app), the timestamp is listed as 18:28 EDT (Eastern Daylight Time). That’s 6:28 PM EDT. EDT is UTC-4, so in Coordinated Universal Time (UTC), this converts to:
18:28 EDT + 4 hours = 22:28 UTC on July 25, 2018.
The post itself says, “No name returning to headlines,” with a photo of John McCain, hands raised. “No name” is a common QAnon reference to McCain, but it doesn’t explicitly predict his death—more on that later.
John McCain’s Death: Date and Time
John McCain died on August 25, 2018, at 4:28 PM, as reported by his Senate office and widely covered by outlets like CBS News and Time. The time is typically cited in local time, which, for McCain’s home in Cornville, Arizona, is Mountain Standard Time (MST). Arizona doesn’t observe Daylight Saving Time (except in the Navajo Nation, which isn’t relevant here), so MST is UTC-7 year-round. Converting his death time to UTC:
16:28 MST + 7 hours = 23:28 UTC on August 25, 2018.
Calculating the Time Difference
Now, let’s measure the interval between the two events:
Q post: July 25, 2018, 22:28 UTC
McCain’s death: August 25, 2018, 23:28 UTC
First, the date difference:
July has 31 days, so from July 25 to August 25 is exactly 31 days (July 25 to July 31 = 6 days, plus August 1 to August 25 = 25 days; 6 + 25 = 31).
Next, the time difference within those days:
From 22:28 UTC (July 25) to 23:28 UTC (August 25):
Start at 22:28 on July 25.
Go to 22:28 on August 25 (31 days later).
Add 1 hour to reach 23:28 on August 25.
Total: 31 days and 1 hour.
So, the precise difference is 31 days, 1 hour, or 745 hours (31 × 24 + 1 = 744 + 1 = 745 hours). That’s 44,700 minutes (745 × 60).
Is It Exactly 30 Days to the Minute?
A 30-day period is 720 hours (30 × 24) or 43,200 minutes. The claim is that Q post 1706 and McCain’s death are “exactly 30 days apart to the minute,” implying the timestamps should align perfectly after 30 days—same hour and minute, just 30 days later.
If we add 30 days to the Q post time:
July 25, 22:28 UTC + 30 days = August 24, 22:28 UTC.
McCain’s death: August 25, 23:28 UTC.
Difference: 1 day and 1 hour (25 hours) later.
They don’t match “to the minute” at 30 days. The actual gap is 31 days and 1 hour, not 30 days with identical minutes.
A QAnon Interpretation Angle
Some QAnon followers, like posts found on X, argue the timing aligns if you tweak the perspective. For example, if the Q post was at 16:28 MST (Arizona time) on July 25, and McCain died at 16:28 MST on August 25, that’s 31 days exactly, same minute. But the Q post timestamp is consistently logged in EDT (or sometimes interpreted as CDT by users like @prayingmedic
, who’s in Arizona). There’s no evidence Q posted in MST—archives show 18:28 EDT. Converting 18:28 EDT to MST (UTC-7) gives 15:28 MST on July 25, still not 16:28 MST. This suggests the “30 days to the minute” claim might stem from misaligned time zones or post hoc adjustments by believers.
Reconciling the Claim
The strictest interpretation—using Q’s posted time (18:28 EDT, 22:28 UTC) and McCain’s death (16:28 MST, 23:28 UTC)—shows a 31-day, 1-hour gap, not 30 days to the minute. For the claim to hold, you’d need:
Q post at 17:28 EDT (to match 16:28 MST, then 30 days to 16:28 MST), but it’s 18:28 EDT.
Or, a misreported death time, but 4:28 PM MST is consistent across official sources.
No credible evidence suggests McCain’s death time was falsified to match a prediction. The post’s vagueness (“returning to headlines”) also allows broad interpretation—his death wasn’t explicitly foretold.
Conclusion
Cross-referencing the standard timestamps, Q post 1706 (July 25, 2018, 18:28 EDT) and John McCain’s death (August 25, 2018, 16:28 MST) are not exactly 30 days apart to the minute. They’re 31 days and 1 hour apart. The “to the minute” claim seems to be a QAnon narrative that doesn’t fully align with the recorded times unless you assume unverified time zone fudging or reinterpretation. It’s a near miss—strikingly close, perhaps—but not exact.
What do you think? Does this shift your view on the prediction claims, or is there another angle you’d like to explore?
GROK3 part 2
Why is there a 1 hour discrepancy in the timestamp of this according to Grok
The JOHN MCAIN DEATH PROOF
Let’s explore how resolving the time zone discrepancy might affect the likelihood of Q being a psychological operation (psyop). This hinges on whether a perfect 30-day-to-the-minute alignment between Q post 1706 and John McCain’s death would strengthen the case for a coordinated effort—say, by a political faction, intelligence group, or foreign actor—versus a lone individual or opportunistic hoax. I’ll analyze this step by step, keeping it sharp and grounded.
The Time Zone Discrepancy Resolved
From the previous breakdown, the actual gap between Q post 1706 (July 25, 2018, 18:28 EDT, or 22:28 UTC) and McCain’s death (August 25, 2018, 16:28 MST, or 23:28 UTC) is 31 days and 1 hour—44,700 minutes. A perfect 30-day alignment (43,200 minutes) would require the events to share the same time of day, 30 days apart. For example:
If Q posted at 19:28 EDT (23:28 UTC) on July 25, then 30 days later is August 24, 23:28 UTC—still 24 hours before McCain’s death.
Or, if McCain died at 15:28 MST (22:28 UTC) on August 24, it’d match Q’s 22:28 UTC on July 25 after 30 days.
No single time zone tweak makes it exact without altering one of the recorded times. Let’s assume, for argument’s sake, the discrepancy is “resolved” by a hypothetical adjustment—say, Q posted in a time zone that makes it 16:28 somewhere (e.g., 19:28 EDT adjusted to 16:28 MST somehow), and McCain’s death stays 16:28 MST, hitting 30 days exactly. This would mean 720 hours (43,200 minutes) spot on.
Impact on Psyop Likelihood
A precise 30-day alignment would be eerie—too neat for coincidence, suggesting intent. Here’s how it might shift the psyop odds:
Strengthening the Psyop Case
Precision Implies Planning: A psyop—especially by a sophisticated actor like an intelligence agency—might aim for symbolic timing to signal control or foresight. Thirty days to the minute could be a coded marker, amplifying the narrative of Q as an omniscient insider. This fits a deliberate operation meant to mesmerize or manipulate followers.
Example: Military or espionage ops often use precise timing for psychological impact (e.g., D-Day’s coordination). A 30-day delta could be a flex of capability.
Access to McCain’s Condition: If Q knew McCain’s glioblastoma prognosis and timed the post to his expected death, it’d suggest insider medical or surveillance intel—beyond a lone troll’s reach. A psyop team could plausibly have such access, especially if state-sponsored.
Narrative Boost: QAnon lore loves numerology (e.g., “17” for Q’s letter position). A perfect 30-day hit would fuel the mythos, a hallmark of psyops designed to radicalize or destabilize via belief reinforcement.
Weakening the Psyop Case
Overcomplication: A psyop aiming for broad disruption (e.g., sowing distrust post-2016) doesn’t need pinpoint timing. Vague predictions—like “No name returning to headlines”—work better for mass appeal, as they’re flexible. A 30-day exact match might be overkill for a troll or profiteer but also overly subtle for a psyop’s blunt goals.
McCain’s Death Wasn’t Predictable: Glioblastoma’s end stage is erratic. McCain stopped treatment on August 24, dying August 25. Pinning a death to the minute 30 days out is near-impossible, even with intel—more luck than design. A psyop might claim credit after, not orchestrate it.
Execution Risks: Coordinating such precision (adjusting posts or faking timestamps) invites scrutiny. The Watkins’ 8kun setup was sloppy—tripcodes got hacked, posts were inconsistent. A psyop would likely be slicker, not tied to amateur forum glitches.
Reassessing the Odds
Without the alignment, I pegged Q as most likely a lone enthusiast or Watkins-led hoax (high probability), with a psyop as a long shot (low probability). If the 30-day-to-the-minute thing held:
Psyop Odds Rise Slightly: From, say, 10% to 20-25%. The precision would hint at resources and intent beyond a basement troll. A foreign actor (e.g., Russia, per DHS reports on Q amplification) or rogue insider could pull it off to destabilize U.S. discourse, using McCain’s death as a propaganda pivot.
Hoax Still Leads: I’d keep it at 60-70%. Ron Watkins or a 4chan prankster could’ve gotten lucky or retrofitted the narrative. The post’s vagueness (“headlines,” not “death”) and the time zone mess suggest improvisation, not a master plan.
Insider Least Likely: Still near 0%. No Q drop has verified leaks proving Q-level clearance, and McCain’s death timing feels more coincidental than engineered.
GROK3 part 3
==the good part…
would the odds change if in fact mccain turned out to be executed?==
Current Times: Q post 1706 (July 25, 2018, 18:28 EDT, 22:28 UTC) to McCain’s death (August 25, 2018, 16:28 MST, 23:28 UTC) is 31 days, 1 hour—44,700 minutes, not the 30-day exact match (43,200 minutes).
Execution Hypothetical: McCain didn’t die naturally but was executed at that time (16:28 MST). Proof exists—say, leaked docs or video.
Original Odds (No Execution): Hoax 60-70%, Psyop 20-25%, Insider ~0%.
Shift with Execution:
Psyop: Jumps to 50-60% (31-day gap) or 70-80% (if 30 days aligns). Execution plus Q’s hint screams coordination—state-level or rogue op.
Hoax: Drops to 20-30%. Too big for a troll to predict without inside info.
Insider: Rises to 20-25%. Q could be tied to the killers.
New Angle: What If Execution Timing Was Flexible?
Suppose the execution wasn’t locked to McCain’s natural decline but was deliberately set to sync with Q’s post—say, they could’ve killed him anytime but chose August 25, 16:28 MST, aiming for a near-30-day signal. Does that change the odds further?
Psyop Boost: If the executors picked the date to echo Q, it’s not just foresight—it’s choreography. Odds climb to 65-75% (31-day gap) or 80-90% (if adjusted to 30 days exact). This level of control—killing a senator and timing it for a 4chan drop—fits a military or intelligence op, domestic (e.g., Q’s “patriots”) or foreign (e.g., Russia flexing).
Hoax Sinks: Falls to 10-20%. A troll can’t dictate a hit’s schedule—Ron Watkins isn’t ordering assassinations from 8kun.
Insider Holds: Stays 15-25%. Q might still be the execution team’s herald, not the mastermind.
Twist: What If Q Knew the Exact Minute?
If evidence showed Q predicted the exact minute of execution (e.g., a coded drop saying “31 days, 1 hour” or “23:28 UTC”), not just the event:
Psyop Soars: 80-90%. That’s micro-level precision—only a planner or leaker with real-time access pulls that off. Think NSA-grade ops.
Hoax Crashes: 5-10%. No 4chan rando guesses a hit’s minute 31 days out.
Insider Peaks: 20-30%. Q could be the executioner’s voice, briefed to the second.
No Change Zone
If the execution happened but Q didn’t know—pure luck on the timing—the odds barely budge from my last take: 50-60% psyop, 20-30% hoax, 20-25% insider. The 31-day, 1-hour gap stays a near-miss without intent.
Odds Update (Execution, Flexible Timing)
Psyop: 65-75% (31-day gap) or 80-90% (30-day sync). Intentional timing screams op.
Hoax: 10-20%. Execution’s too heavy for a grift alone.
Insider: 15-25%. Q as a cog in the killing machine.
Your Call
Execution flips Q from likely hoax to probable psyop—more so if the timing was dialed in. A 30-day bullseye or minute-specific hint would bury the hoax theory. What’s your spin? Want me to tweak this with a wilder “what if” or zoom into something specific?