Anonymous ID: 8c4de0 May 6, 2025, 8:52 a.m. No.22999158   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9189

>>22999146

 

You missed the part about it standing up to mob rule. Do you know why the population isn't supporting it? Because it's not being upheld and hasn't been, by the very people the population are forced under threat of arrest to pay to uphold and protect it.

 

The problem isn't the constitution, the problem is those perverting it. You are also supporting the perversion of it.

 

When "law enforcement" and the courts are themselves lawless, why should the people support the law? Bring the judges, prosecutors, and law enforcement to heal back under the constitution and you'd be amazed how much people support it.

Anonymous ID: 8c4de0 May 6, 2025, 9:13 a.m. No.22999236   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9295

>>22999217

Remember anon, the witnesses lay dead but terror strikes when the breath of life enters them and they stand up.

 

Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. Not tyranny masquerading as liberty.

Anonymous ID: 8c4de0 May 6, 2025, 9:31 a.m. No.22999320   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>22999295

Yes, we do have a problem. A big problem.

 

While most are concerned about money, people are having their freedom taken, beaten, even killed for doing nothing wrong, or even constitutionally protected activities, by people we pay to protect liberty.

Anonymous ID: 8c4de0 May 6, 2025, 10:29 a.m. No.22999530   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9536 >>9543 >>9575

>>22999517

 

That's like saying due process for someone accused of murder is to execute them. You're skipping the ACTUAL due process and claiming your end goal is the due process.

 

Due process would be determining if they have a right to be in the country and allowing them the opportunity to give their argument for why they do in court, while the state shows evidence they don't.

Anonymous ID: 8c4de0 May 6, 2025, 10:34 a.m. No.22999545   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9555 >>9625

>>22999536

 

Again, that's like saying since someone accused of murder didn't give their victim due process, they shouldn't get due process.

 

Our constitution guarantees all persons (not just citizens) the right to due process, and 18 USC 242 makes it a federal crime to deny even aliens rights guaranteed by the constitution.

 

Our government has lit a fire and drawn out enemies to the Constitution from both "sides" into the open.

Anonymous ID: 8c4de0 May 6, 2025, 10:39 a.m. No.22999562   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9567 >>9570 >>9574 >>9589

>>22999553

>>22999555

 

Keep crying. The constitution guarantees all persons, not just citizens due process. It's quite clear. 18 USC 242 also makes it a federal crime to deny even an alien a right guaranteed by the constitution.

 

Domestic enemies to the Constitution have shown themselves on both sides.

Anonymous ID: 8c4de0 May 6, 2025, 10:44 a.m. No.22999582   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9588 >>9592

>>22999570

Take your projections and shove them. My ancestors fought for liberty for ALL, not only some. This is MY country as much as anyones. Our constitution guarantees ALL PERSONS due process of law, not just citizens who have other privileges and immunities, and ANYONE from any "side" who would deny that is an enemy to the Constitution and should be treated as such.

Anonymous ID: 8c4de0 May 6, 2025, 10:58 a.m. No.22999646   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9671 >>9676 >>9688

>>22999605

 

14th amendment

>All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

 

This defines a citizen.

 

>No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States;

 

This is clear, no state shall abridge the PRIVILEGES or IMMUNITIES of citizens.

 

> nor shall any State deprive anypersonof life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

 

Persons, not citizens. Citizens have extra privileges and immunities, but all PERSONS get due process.

 

5th amendment.

>No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

 

Again, persons, not citizens.

 

18 USC 242

>Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or to different punishments, pains, or penalties,on account of such person being an alien, or by reason of his color, or race, than are prescribed for the punishment of citizens, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

Anonymous ID: 8c4de0 May 6, 2025, 11:02 a.m. No.22999662   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9781

>>22999631

You were wrong yesterday and you're still wrong. It defines a citizen, talks about citizens privileges and immunities, then guarantees all PERSONS due process. It clearly differentiates.

Anonymous ID: 8c4de0 May 6, 2025, 11:16 a.m. No.22999735   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9760

>>22999711

No I'm not, at all. Did you forget that our nation was founded on the principle that all men are created equal and given certain unalienable rights? Our constitution is the supreme law and any law repugnant to it is void, period. Our constitution is VERY clear that all persons, not just citizens, are guaranteed the right to due process and 18 USC 241 and 242 make it clear that denying it or conspiring to deny it is a crime.

 

My argument is reality and the complete text of the 5th and appropriate first section of the 14th, along with the federal law. Your argument is you don't want it to be so so it must not be.

Anonymous ID: 8c4de0 May 6, 2025, 11:27 a.m. No.22999809   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9820

>>22999788

I have, repeatedly. There is no law superseding the constitution, period. When I was young a long long time ago, this wasn't even questioned, it was taught that all persons not just citizens are guaranteed the right to due process. That's why 18 USC 242 specifies "on account of such person being an alien" because our laws are not only for citizens.

 

Why do idiots keep projecting that I'm defending him? I'm defending our constitution and what it stands for.

Anonymous ID: 8c4de0 May 6, 2025, 11:30 a.m. No.22999826   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>22999795

Yes, we established it and recognised all men are created equal, granted by their creator with certain unalienable rights. In our constitution we recognized and guaranteed the right to due process to all people, not just citizens.

 

Are you under the impression our constitutional rights are granted by the constitution, rather than protected by it?