>deprive them of liberty
Which is exactly what arresting them and deporting them does, so it must be done with due process.
But within that 24 hours they must see a judge, and they get their day in court.
Then they are released, not imprisoned/deported.
>deprivation of liberty
So you don't think arresting someone and taking them to another country against their will is deprivation of liberty?
Already addressed dipshit.
Yes, WE THE PEOPLE established it, as we recognised all men are created equal and endowed with certain unalienable rights. We then guaranteed all PERSONS, not just citizens due process or law.
Our supreme court already was clear even illegal aliens are guaranteed due process.
So whatever government accuses you of you are guilty without due process. Got it.
Love your neighbor as yourself. You keep forgetting the part where we recognised all have rights, not just us.
The constitution is clear, the supreme court was clear.
Good thing the constitution is so clear then. All persons, not citizens which it clearly defines and distinguishes between.
Hate free speech too huh?
I didn't say anything about hating me.
Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. Not tyranny masquerading as tyranny.
Wrong. Even illegal aliens when in our country are guaranteed due process. All persons, and the supreme court has upheld that before.
Reality says it, the supreme court agrees.
Why do you morons think money makes violating rights ok?
Yeah, and? Do you think I'm worried about what others think of what I say?
No, it's your opinion because they came here illegally they aren't guaranteed due process. Our constitution and the supreme court says otherwise.
The constitution and the court both say they are guaranteed due process. It's your opinion that that is wrong.
Why do you think because the country claims something it's fact? That's what due process is for.
It's not ok for government to violate rights and pay a settlement later. That's why they're violating citizens rights nationwide.
You keep repeating the same nonsense. Anyone in the country, even illegal, gets due process.
We're not talking about soldiers, we're talking about people who were lied to and promised a better life to get them here for this op.
Again, an arrest and deportation is a removal of liberty. This isn't just my opinion this is accepted law.
Potus should make an Aunt Jemima remembrance day for the keks
>I think it would rarely happen
What the fuck rock are you living under? Government violates citizens (yes citizens, not illegals) rights every day all across the nation, and when someone DOES manage to hold them accountable, the only way is suing and they pay it with taxpayers money.
Truth repeats.
No, the 14th makes clear that natural born or naturalized persons = Citizens. It defines citizens as a subset (natural born or naturalized) of persons, talks about the immunities and privileges of citizens, and then the rights of all persons.
Again, yes it is.
https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt5-6-2-3/ALDE_00013726/
So you don't give a shit about liberty and civilians rights violated daily because government let a bunch of people in so you'd support the denial of due process. Makes sense.
No that wasn't me.
So you don't believe detaining someone against their will and forcefully sending them to another country is a deprivation of liberty?
Yes, your liberty has been removed. Government is violating our rights daily, and people only seem to care about how much money they're making.
Look at the 4th/5th and civil asset forfeiture, look at the 1st and panhandling arrests, look at the 2nd and gun control.
Repeating that lie doesn't make it true. Are you under the mistaken impression the constitution grants rights?
You missed the "against their will" part.
I guess it's ok for government to force you to go to where you were born against your will without any due process?
Note I'm not arguing against deportation, I'm arguing about denial of due process. Why do some get so angry at the idea of giving them due process?
The text is wrong, the court is wrong, I'm wrong, and you're right because you say so? kek
Again that's such a fucking retarded argument and it's the SAME one you idiots always use.
That's the same as saying since someone accused of murder didn't give their victim due process, they shouldn't get it and should just be hung.
Our constitution guarantees all persons due process regardless of citizenship. This is the clear text of it, and the opinion of the court.
Why does the idea of giving them due process anger you so much? If they're guilty deport away.
Our constitution is violated every day by the courts, prosecutors and law enforcement.
Cause you say so! kek
No I'm not, because the constitution guarantees and the supreme court recognized that the constitution guarantees due process to all persons, regardless of citizenship.
Do you understand the words REGARDLESS OF
All persons, regardless of citizenship get due process.
>proof that he/she is a Constitutional Scholar
Trying again with the strawman and you call my argument weak. KMAO
So much projection.
Love your neighbor as yourself. Love your enemy, and bless those who persecute you.
No, it's literally a strawman and again comparing the strawman to my argument.
Do you always compare yourself to others? Other countries have kings should we?
We're not talking about an invading army, we're talking about people promised a better life and let in so assholes could argue for the deprivation of due process.
Right, fuck reality, fuck the actual text, fuck the court rulings, fuck the law, you're right because you say so. kek
Jesus also said love your enemy and if you love only those who love you what credit is it to you?
Loving your neighbor means even the neighbor who is an enemy. Treat others the way you want to be treated. That's why our constitution guarantees all, not just citizens, due process.
Those who wanted them to come here. You're more concerned about them than the cops and judges violating citizens rights every day right?
Jesus said love your neighbor as yourself. Jesus also said love your enemy, and bless those who persecute you. Jesus also said if you love only those who love you what credit is it to you?
That means if your enemy is your neighbor, you love that neighbor too. Not just the ones who love you.
Always projecting nonsense kek. Learn to read.
Our nation is violating citizens rights every single day, our government not only allowed illegals in, they promised them a better life. Now, they're "fighting" to remove them, which is keeping you distracted, and you don't give a fuck that citizens rights are violated every day.
>sauce it…
So you reject those sayings of Jesus in the bible?
There's a reason it's a logical fallacy. One never stands alone when they tell the Truth.
Yes, love them and forgive them always. Loving and forgiving doesn't mean letting them abuse you, but it also doesn't mean abusing them in return. This nation was founded on the principles of equal justice and protection under the law for all, not just us. Love your neighbor as yourself. Love your enemies and bless those who persecute you. If you love only those who love you, what credit is it to you?
It's convenient to throw out the parts you don't like as "rewritten".
Jesus walked on water, read revelation 17, we're the waters.
It doesn't mean to crush them without mercy. We the People are above the serpents in government, we do tread on them, we can crush them.
Oh ok so they lied about the unsecured borders during Biden?
Yes, the Way and the Truth and the Life said they would fight not to hand Him over.
When Peter pulled his sword and cut off the guards ear, Jesus rebuked him and said what was going to happen must happen.
Can you reconcile both?
Are you fighting for Truth, or what you want to be true?
Convenient.
What you tell me is nonsense.
What does the angel tell us the waters are in revelation 17:15?
Uh huh.
Why do you answer a question with a question?
Perhaps Jesus didn't mean a physical fight? Perhaps fighting for Truth is fighting for Him?
Revelation 17:15 tells you plainly the waters stand for people, multitudes, nations, and languages.
Anon, think about the flood. Think about the rainbow being a promise not to flood the earth again. Think about parting the red "sea". Gathered waters are called seas.
Think about what the power to stop the rain means.
Like Q said, this is biblical, learn the comms. The waters are people. A third of the waters are turned bitter. They're given blood to drink. Without water, blood dries up and dies.