MY OWN PERSONAL THOUGHTS ON TRUMP'S SO-CALLED RUSSIA-UKRAINE PEACE DEAL:A BIG FAT RUSE.

Let me explain why I think this way. A week ago we had Trump openly criticizing Putin over a retaliation strike on Ukraine, calling Putin "crazy" and condemning the violence.

Well, in just the last TWO DAYS Ukraine destroyed two public trains in Russia, several Russian airbases, up to 40 Tu-95MSs & Tu-22M3s destroyed, one An-12 obliterated on Russian soil, AND a bombing strike on Moscow!!!!

Where the fuck is Trump now????? Is he condemning Zelensky for this????

I have to believe this whole shitshow is ONE BIG RUSE, that the US government is FAKING their participation of peace talks …AND…. in reality, directly aiding this war against Russia the whole time!!!

If I'm wrong…. and I hope I am….. then PROVE ME WRONG!!!!

>>23111788

Why isn't he condeming Ukraine for this, after all, some of these strikes were not just military (some were yes), some of the strikes against the bridges and trains ended up KILLING innocent Russian civilians, men women and children…… and yet, silence when Ukraine does it, not even one public condemnation???

I'm sorry, but this whole "peace deal" looks like a ruse as of now, a con job. Where did Ukraine get the satellite intelligence to pull this off? Yah, hate to say the obvious but probably from our own government. So I have to assume this is one big ruse, the US government is STILL in a proxy war with Russia and nothing has changed!!!

"As of 10:00 PM eastern US Time, it was 0500 AM in Kiev, Ukraine. Volodymyr Zelensky and the Ukrainian Government "leadership" have been moved to an undisclosed location in anticipation of Russian retaliatory attacks."

>>23111807

Not very safe to be there right now, after what has happened the last two days. Neo-cons are still escalating and these "peace talks" are going absolutely nowhere.

NOW WHAT?????

All I have to say is if the US gets into a major war with Russia, don't expect me to come join the war!! I'm sick of this shit show. It's time to walk away from this shit show. If that means Ukraine and Russia and Europe destroy one another so be it!! I'm done with this, it's a ruse.

>>23111827

That was entertaining to see Trump not entertaining a war mongerer trying to drag us into war, true. I enjoyed that. But that was then, this is now. It's far time the US walks away after this "peace deal" fails. Because from then on, the Russians are saying it will be settled on the battlefield if talks fail. They likely will.

>>23111839

>If President Trump or his National Security Council were made aware that Ukraine was going to strike at nuclear capable targets covered by strategic defense agreements,I strongly doubt President Trump, or any member of his administration would have approved or consentedto any participation or support. This is just too strong a provocation to enlarge the conflict and draw NATO into it even deeper.

HE BETTER CALL IT OUT AND TELL UKRAINE WE ARE ABSOLUTELY NOT GOING TO BE FIGHTING A WAR WITH RUSSIA.

This is where I walk away. I'm not playing 'where we go one we go all' with this bullshit. Hell no.

>>23111852

My very point! At what point is enough, enough???

WALK AWAY ALREADY.

It's OK to just walk away.

>>23111867

>He wants the mass death of soldiers to stop.

Perfectly reasonable, but again: >>23111785

Ukraine is NOT ready to give into a peace deal. They are only escalating. THAT is the problem. And worse…. Trump does not seem to be calling them out on that recently. This is a very serious and dangerous escalation. Ukraine will only stop when the US government (or PDJT) tells them to stop or we walk out!!! It needs to be addressed NOW.

>>23111884

Then the US needs to pull out of NATO, and the President needs to address the nation on this crisis and admit to the American people NATO lost a proxy war and we will not be dragged into it.

Not doing so risks a massive societal and political crisis, here in the US.

Let me be clear: any decent president would come out by now and address the American people on public TV, admit our government lost a proxy war, it did not work out the way they planned, and we are pulling out of it to risk an even bigger disaster and lost life here at home!

>>23111918

There may not be a next time if we get dragged into this. I'll be trying to survive the best I can with my preps in my rural homestead at that point, if that's even possible.

>>23111934

Nuclear world war, because that is what the EU and NATO are pushing for. They want us to join in with their death cult.

Ukraine carried out strategic drone strikes on Sunday against several bases all across Russia that are known to house elements of its nuclear triad. This came a day before the second round of the newly resumed Russian-Ukrainian talks in Istanbul and less than a week after Trump warned Putin that “bad things..REALLY BAD” might soon happen to Russia. It therefore can’t be ruled out that he knew about this and might have even discreetly signaled his approval in order to “force Russia into peace”.

Of course, it’s also possible that he was bluffing and the Biden-era CIA helped orchestrate this attack in advance without him ever finding out so that Ukraine could either sabotage peace talks if he won and pressured Zelensky into them or coerce maximum concessions from Russia, but his ominous words still look bad. Whatever the extent of Trump’s knowledge may or may not be, Putin might once again climb the escalation ladder by dropping more Oreshniks on Ukraine, which could risk a rupture in their ties.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/will-russias-retaliation-ukraines-strategic-drone-strikes-decisively-end-conflict

Trump-Endorsed Nationalist Narrowly Wins Polish Presidential Election

In Poland's extraordinarily tight and closely-watched presidential run-off election, a staunch nationalist conservative on Sunday defeated a pro-EU liberal in an outcome that promises economic and geopolitical implications. With 100% of the precincts reporting, conservative historian Karol Nawrocki had 50.9% of the votes, compared to 49.1% for leftist Warsaw Mayor Rafal Trzaskowski, who prematurely declared victory on Sunday evening after the first exit polls showed him at 50.3%.

Among the key issues in the election were immigration, abortion, support for Ukraine, and Polish integration with the rest of Europe. When he takes office on August 6, Nawrocki a former boxer who leads the Institute for National Remembrance will succeed term-limited President Andrzej Duda. Like Nawrocki, Duda is associated with the right-wing Law and Justice (PiS) party.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/trump-endorsed-nationalist-narrowly-wins-polish-presidential-election

>>23112005

>Several media outlets circulated the full text of Ukraine’s road map for peace titled ‘Ukraine-Russia Negotiations Framework’, the contents of which were first reported by Reuters. The document, which consists of five parts, outlines Kiev’s key conditions for a peace settlement with Russia.

True, all of which are conditions Russia has previously rejected numerous times. So it's a no-go already. Russia has yet to issue their conditions which will obviously also be a no-go for Ukraine.

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news-selections/world-news/ukraine-formally-present-peace-demands-to-russia

Mark my words anons, there will be NO peace deal between Ukraine and Russia. Like it or not. Both sides are in strong disagreement with each other's conditions for peace.

So the only question is… now that the EU and NATO are ready to start a direct a war with Russia, and I believe they will do so and are trying to do so, ….when does the US walk away? When will we tell Europe this is not our war, that we will not sacrifice ourselves for Ukraine? When will enough be enough for Trump's administration and we walk away?

>>23112033

Biggest draft dodge the world will ever see incoming 3… 2…

>>23112035

Any news on this or is it FUD?