https://x.com/caitoz/status/1933453201275302088

Caitlin Johnstone

@caitoz

Refresher on the rules for discussing Israeli wars:

Rule 1: Israel is never the aggressor. If Israel attacks someone it's either a response to an aggression that happened in the past, or a preemptive attack to thwart an imminent aggression in the future.

Rule 2: History automatically restarts at the date of the last act of aggression against Israel. If someone attacks Israel it was completely unprovoked, because nothing happened before the attack on Israel.

Rule 3: Anything bad that Israel does is justified by Rule 2. This is true even if it does things that would be considered completely unjustifiable if it were done by a nation like Russia or China.

Rule 4: Israel has a right to defend itself, but nobody else does.

Rule 5: Israel never bombs civilians, it bombs Bad Guys. If shocking numbers of civilians die it's because they were actually Bad Guys, or because Bad Guys killed them, or because a Bad Guy stood too close to them. If none of those reasons apply then it's for some other mysterious reason we are still waiting for the IDF to investigate.

Rule 6: Criticizing anything Israel does means you hate Jewish people. There is no other possible reason for anyone to oppose acts of mass military slaughter besides a seething, obsessive hatred for a small Abrahamic faith.

Rule 7: Nothing Israel does is ever as bad as the hateful criticisms described in Rule 6. Criticisms of Israel's actions are always worse than Israel's actions themselves, because those critics hate Jews and wish to commit another Holocaust. Preventing this must consume 100 percent of our political energy and attention.

Rule 8: Israelis are only ever the victims and never the victimizers. If Israelis kill Iranians, it's because the Iranians hate Jews. If Iranians kill Israelis, it's because the Iranians hate Jews. Israel is an innocent little lamb that just wants to mind its own business in peace.

Rule 9: The fact that Israel is literally always in a state of war with its neighbors and with displaced indigenous populations must be interpreted as proof that Rule 8 is true instead of proof that Rule 8 is ridiculous nonsense.

Rule 10: Muslim lives are much, much less important to us than western lives or Israeli lives. Nobody is allowed to think too hard about why this might be.

Rule 11: The media always tell the truth about Israel and its various conflicts. If you doubt this then you are likely in violation of Rule 6.

Rule 12: Unsubstantiated claims which portray Israel's enemies in a negative light may be reported as factual news stories without any fact checking or qualifications, while extensively evidenced records of Israeli criminality must be reported on with extreme skepticism and doubtful qualifiers like "Hezbollah says" or "according to the Hamas-run health ministry". This is important to do because otherwise you might get accused of being a propagandist.

Rule 13: Israel must continue to exist in its current iteration no matter what it costs or how many people need to die. There is no need to present any logically or morally grounded reasons why this is the case. If you dispute this then you are likely in violation of Rule 6.

Rule 14: The US government has never lied about anything ever, and is always on the right side of every conflict.

Rule 15: Israel is the last bastion of freedom and democracy in the middle east and therefore must be defended, no matter how many journalists it has to assassinate, no matter how many press institutions it needs to shut down, no matter how many protests its supporters need to dismantle, no matter how much free speech it needs to eliminate, no matter how many civil rights its western backers need to erase, and no matter how many elections its lobbyists need to buy.

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https://gizmodo.com/the-manosphere-is-at-war-with-itself-over-israels-strike-on-iran-2000615773

The Manosphere Is at War With Itself Over Israel’s Strike on Iran

The online brotherhood built on dominance and certainty is fracturing fast over real-world war.

Luc Olinga Published June 13, 2025 |

219 comments.

From the outside, the manosphere often appears monolithic: a band of hyper-online masculinity influencers united in their war against feminism, political correctness, and what they see as the softening of Western civilization. Whether it’s red-pillers, tradCons, incels, nationalists, or so-called alpha gurus, their message is usually loud, synchronized, and singular.

But beneath the surface, the ecosystem is messy and fragmented. These men can’t even agree on what a “true alpha” is, other than to claim, for self-serving and brand-conscious reasons, that Donald Trump and Elon Musk are the ideal masculine archetypes.

Now, a geopolitical crisis has cracked the whole thing wide open.

For months, speculation swirled that Israel would launch a preventive strike on Iran. Inside the manosphere, this prospect was a source of simmering tension. Some influencers warned of a coming World War 3. Others tried to keep their feeds focused on fitness, feminism, and Western decline. But when Israel launched a large-scale airstrike on Iranian nuclear facilities late Thursday night, June 12, the fallout across the online masculinity space was immediate and brutal.

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https://gizmodo.com/the-manosphere-is-at-war-with-itself-over-israels-strike-on-iran-2000615773

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Nicholas J. Fuentes

@NickJFuentes

After Trump explicitly told Netanyahu not to strike and then reaffirmed his commitment to diplomacy, Netanyahu carried out +300 strikes later that night.

Netanyahu vetoed the American President.

Israel has utterly humiliated Trump and the United States.

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https://x.com/NickJFuentes/status/1933501963590652342

>>23192239

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>>23192244

This rift matters. If Israel’s strike escalates into a wider conflict, or if U.S. troops are drawn in, the fracture in the manosphere may become permanent. Influencers who have built empires on the illusion of ideological clarity are being forced to confront contradictions they’d rather ignore. Christian nationalists are struggling to square support for Israel with growing resentment among their base. Muslim influencers can no longer co-sign Western dominance while denouncing Western intervention. And libertarians are finding themselves surrounded by warhawks in their own movement.

< This is a test of what the manosphere really stands for when the stakes are higher than culture wars. What began as a fight about masculinity is now a battle over war, empire, and whose lives are worth defending. The grift is straining.

The alliances are buckling. And no matter who wins this war, the brand may never be the same.

https://gizmodo.com/the-manosphere-is-at-war-with-itself-over-israels-strike-on-iran-2000615773

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>>23192247

If USA gets involved with war Israel/Iran, when does Barron Trump enlist?

same for Mark Levin’s military age kids?

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>>23192247

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/politico-nightly/2025/06/13/the-maga-split-over-israel-00405778

Is America’s “special relationship” with Israel consistent with the realist principles of an “America First” foreign policy?

The clash — which is taking place between two powerful factions of the MAGA movement — is unfolding primarily at an ideological level, but its consequences are far from academic. As the U.S. and Israel weigh their response to retaliatory strikes from Iran, the position that the Trump administration eventually adopts in this intra-conservative skirmish will almost certainly shape its involvement in the next stages of conflict — and, by extension, the long-term trajectory of the Middle East.

For now, the contours of the debate are straightforward, even if the politics surrounding them are far from it.

Since the creation of the Jewish state in 1948, America has treated Israel as first among equals in the universe of American allies, offering the Middle Eastern country extensive diplomatic, military and economic support. In 1962, President John F. Kennedy Jr. coined the term “special relationship” to describe the unusually close partnership between the two states, noting that the extent of the U.S.’s ties to Israel is “really comparable only to that which it has with Britain over a wide range of world affairs.” Since then, the unique status of the relationship has garnered broad bipartisan support, illustrated most recently by President Joe Biden’s offer of “rock-solid and unwavering support” to Israel in the wake of the Oct. 7 attacks by Hamas.

But the re-emergence of “America First” foreign policy thinking under Trump has posed a fundamental challenge to the ideological underpinnings of the special relationship. In the eyes of America First hardliners, U.S. foreign policy should limit American involvement in foreign conflicts to those that have direct bearing on U.S. interests — and, in particular, to the interests of the “forgotten Americans” that Trump has claimed as his base since 2016

the re-emergence of “America First” foreign policy thinking under Trump has posed a fundamental challenge to the ideological underpinnings of the special relationship. In the eyes of America First hardliners, U.S. foreign policy should limit American involvement in foreign conflicts to those that have direct bearing on U.S. interests — and, in particular, to the interests of the “forgotten Americans” that Trump has claimed as his base since 2016.

That re-framing of the foreign policy discussion has inevitably raised questions on the right about the U.S.-Israel alliance: If the relationship between the two nations is “special” — which is to say, grounded in an unchanging transnational bond — is it really based on cool-headed calculations of self interest? Are the interests of Israel always coextensive with the interests of the U.S.?

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Notably, the schism has taken on something of a generational character. In general, young conservatives like Kirk and Mills are making the case that America First foreign policy requires revising the special relationship with Israel, while older conservatives are tending to defend the status quo. “There is no appetite among the Gen Z MAGA cohort for war with Iran,” said Nick Solheim, the 28-year-old CEO of the conservative talent network American Moment. “There is definitely a fear among the MAGA youth in D.C. that the Israeli strikes have the potential to drag us into yet another extended conflict in the Middle East — and America First foreign policy is the bulwark against that.”

In the eyes of this younger generation, a more arms-length posture toward Israel’s latest strikes on Iran is merely a natural extension of Trump’s broader foreign policy vision. “The president was unambiguous about his preference for diplomacy to resolve the tensions with Iran,” said Solheim, referring to Trump’s earlier comments about the conflict. “Our talent network knows what’s been obvious for the last 10 years, ever since he trashed the Iraq War on the Republican primary debate stage —

—-President Trump is the No New Wars President.”

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/politico-nightly/2025/06/13/the-maga-split-over-israel-00405778

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>>23192295

04/04/2024 11:40 AM EDT

Updated: 04/04/2024 03:55 PM EDT

For the second time in two weeks, Donald Trump on Thursday unloaded on Israel.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/04/trump-israel-gaza-war-00150577

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Mark Levin should tell all of his Jewish kids to enlist in the military today:

> fire from conservative supporters of Israel, who argue that the maintenance of the “special relationship” remains an integral part of Trump’s foreign policy. “The demand that [Trump] abandon [Israel] is not MAGA. It’s isolationist, which he has never been,” wrote Mark Levin, the conservative talk-radio host who has lobbied the White House to support strikes on Iran, on social media on Thursday. “For crying out loud, don’t accuse him of abandoning MAGA by projecting your own isolationism onto him. He’s upholding a crucially important campaign promise.”

<Trump also promised no new wars.

So which is more important?

Israeli lives or American lives…

America First

Or

Israel first?

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/politico-nightly/2025/06/13/the-maga-split-over-israel-00405778

Hoping that Iran is a puppet state and everything habbening is to expose it. That when all is said and done, the world finds out Iran is run by CIA, made to be awful boogeymen, so that the deep state can cause war with Israel, get new war going, blame IRAN, even though Iran is a captured state like we learned N. Korea was. That Trump looking bad everywhere is to make deep state think they got him, when behind the scene, the shit is really going to root out the swamp in Iran and Israel, who are in cahoots. A lot of what is going down in both Israel and Iran is deep state being cleared out. If the mountain gets taken out, is it bad guys CIA getting demolished, not really Iran, but the deep state. I think all of this will lead to exposure of what is really going on. Israel in cahoots with deep,state who runs shit out of Iran, blames Iran, media pushes the agenda. No one really knows, but i suspect it is true. Or at least i am watching for it to be.

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Remember

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/politico-nightly/2025/06/13/the-maga-split-over-israel-00405778

Radar reveals details of mountain collapse after North Korea’s most recent nuclear test

Using synthetic aperture radar and seismic measurements, scientists determined that the underground nuclear explosion lowered the mountain 20 inches

By Robert Sanders

May 10, 2018

North Korea’s president pledges to “denuclearize” the Korean peninsula, an international team of scientists is publishing the most detailed view yet of the site of the country’s latest and largest underground nuclear test on Sept. 3, 2017.

six bomb tests on Mt. Mantap, North Korea

Google Earth image of Mt. Mantap in North Korea showing the locations of the nation’s six nuclear bomb tests, including the Sept. 3, 2017, test (red), the largest, which lowered the mountain by 20 inches. Courtesy of Google Earth.

The new picture of how the explosion altered the mountain above the detonation highlights the importance of using satellite radar imaging, called SAR (synthetic aperture radar), in addition to seismic recordings to more precisely monitor the location and yield of nuclear tests in North Korea and around the world.

The researchers – Teng Wang, Qibin Shi, Shengji Wei and Sylvain Barbot from the Earth Observatory at Nanyang Technological University in Singapore, Douglas Dreger and Roland Bürgmann from the University of California, Berkeley, Mehdi Nikkhoo from the German Research Centre for Geosciences in Potsdam, Mahdi Motagh from the Leibniz Universität Hannover, and Qi-Fu Chen from the Chinese Academy of Sciences in Beijing – will report their results online this week in advance of publication in the journal Science.

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https://news.berkeley.edu/2018/05/10/radar-reveals-details-of-mountain-collapse-after-north-koreas-most-recent-nuclear-test/

Image.

Google Earth image of Mt. Mantap in North Korea showing the locations of the nation’s six nuclear bomb tests, including the Sept. 3, 2017, test (red), the largest, which lowered the mountain by 20 inches. Courtesy of Google Earth.

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And the google big tech drops.

eric schmidt and New Mexico ex govenor bill richardson inside n. Korea

>>23192317

N. Korea.

The mountain collapse?

Was it “really” collapsed because of nuclear test?

Or was it destroyed by black hats or by white hats.

Same question should be posed about Iran .

Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant (FFEP), which is a nuclear facility located within a mountain near the city of Qom.

If it goes bye bye is it to destroy evidence or is it to save lives.

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Whirlpool

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Nice catch

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This made me laugh.

GOD wins.

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Is the “regime” really rhe cia running the country?

And it means when we see regime change it really means deepstate swamp working with Israel and mossad is taken out and Iran can truly be free. If yes, normies will not understand this.

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The desk. Kek.

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Even the shoes.

>>23192353

And i think there is a dildo on the bed.