Anonymous ID: ce53c2 The New 4AM Talking Point: "I Trust Trump" June 19, 2025, 5:41 a.m. No.23203609   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>3646

Well, my worst fears for the MAGA movement have come true. MAGA and what ever you want to call this place are being put through a humiliation ritual.

The 4AM Talking Points have been morphed into a Right Wing coordinated neocon beat the drum for war with the message "I trust Trump to know that to do". I saw it here yesterday a few hours before picrel showed up, and now every right wing talking head is saying it. Why, because they have been making the exact opposite argument for years and now they have been told it is going to happen and we need to close ranks behind Trump. The FOX commentators are already starting the 'Boots On the Ground' phase.

 

Well, guess what, Trumps handling of COVID showed he has not in control, the election showed he was not in control, and this crisis shows he is not in control. So no, I Do Not Trust Trump.

A sad day for America indeed.

Anonymous ID: ce53c2 June 19, 2025, 5:49 a.m. No.23203650   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>3726

>>23203560

He is installing the Shaw back into Iran. The oldest son of the Shaw the CIA installed back in 1952.

Turmpo is saving his own ass just like Bebe is. If one thing has become clear, it is that Trump is in those the Epstein files in a way that will sink him and he is willing to start a major war to save himself (of course for the greater good because with out him Amazing Patriots cannot fight for Freedom, Family, Goodness, and GOD!!!)

There is no goodness in going to war, there is only the question of how much evil are you going to perpetrate int he name of GOD.

Anonymous ID: ce53c2 June 19, 2025, 6:03 a.m. No.23203710   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>23203676

You would be better off cultivating that sentiment towards patriotism. It is the sprit that got this country out from under the King, and is a legitimate sentiment no matter who is in charge.

 

On the other hand, if you blindly follow Trump into this war for Israel, you are what we would call a Loyalist. Some of us will fight you weather you are supporting the Left or the Right, if Trump goes down this road, he will be held to account.

Anonymous ID: ce53c2 June 19, 2025, 6:07 a.m. No.23203728   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>23203686

Jesus said, call no one master. Paul said it is better to be free if you have the choice.

You say, Give me a King. Who else said that? The Israelites. And what did God say to them? A king is going to fuck you up, but you asked for it so you got it.

Anonymous ID: ce53c2 June 19, 2025, 6:19 a.m. No.23203761   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>3769 >>4119

>>23203726

The US is not innocent in the mess. The CIA put the last Shaw in place, and now we are going to do it again.

You will send America's sons and daughters to fight for Israel, because you believe some vendetta from 40 years ago is going to be righted. The only guilty ones who will need mercy in the coming years will be people like you from the broken minds and bodies of your fellow Americans you were willing to sacrifice for some CIA/US intelligence agencies blood feud.

Anonymous ID: ce53c2 June 19, 2025, 6:54 a.m. No.23203855   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>23203771

like it or not, it was and is a representee democracy. True it is not a pure democracy, but republic in its Latin state just means 'public good' or 'public affair' or in modern terms 'country' . The reason the founding fathers chose republic was they wanted to signify that we were modeling the country on the Roman Republic, which was a Representative Democracy.

The more modern understanding of Republic is:

  1. A political order whose head of state is not a monarch and in modern times is usually a president.

  2. A nation that has such a political order.

  3. A political order in which the supreme power lies in a body of citizens who are entitled to vote for officers and representatives responsible to them.

 

You may be thinking of because Republic is often conflated with the Roman Republic and are enamored with the glory of Rome that the founding fathers where out to recreate the Roman ethos. What seems clear is that the Founding Fathers when to great lengths to not repeat the inherent flaws of the Roman Republic that allowed it to become the Roman Empire. They failed, we have been the US Empire (just did not change the name) since WWII , maybe since we took over the Philippines and Cuba in 1898 and maybe since Lincoln "saved" the country. We now are at the point where large parts of the population are wanting to formalize the president as emperor (Dems wanted Obama, Reps want Trump) but probably would leave the name president is place.