Anonymous ID: 445d51 July 23, 2025, 5:51 p.m. No.23371413   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1424 >>1436 >>1484

Can an ex-president face a military tribunal for treason? 1/3

March 15, 2024 by Gary McCloud

The short answer is highly unlikely, but not definitively impossible. While the Constitution and federal law primarily envision civilian courts handling treason charges, the possibility of a military tribunal for a former presidentdepends on several complex and often conflicting legal principles, primarily centering around jurisdiction, status, and the specific nature of the alleged treasonous acts. The circumstances would need to be incredibly specific and unusual to overcome the strong presumption in favor of civilian justice, particularly given the constitutional safeguards afforded to all citizens, including former presidents.

 

The Constitutional Framework and Treason

 

Understanding whether a former president can face a military tribunal for treason requires dissecting the constitutional and legal framework surrounding both treason and military tribunals.

 

Defining Treason

 

The Constitution narrowly defines treason in Article III, Section 3: “Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.” This definition is deliberately restrictive to prevent the government from using treason charges as a tool for political oppression. The government must prove two key elements: intent and an overt act. Mere expression of disloyal sentiments is not enough. There must be demonstrable action taken to aid an enemy or wage war against the U.S.

 

Military Tribunals: Jurisdiction and Scope

 

Military tribunals, also known asmilitary commissions, are courts established by the military to try individuals for offenses violating the law of war. Historically, they have been used to try enemy combatants during wartime. The authority to establish military commissions stems from both constitutional and statutory sources,primarily the War Powers granted to Congress and the President as Commander-in-Chief.

 

However, the jurisdiction of military tribunals is limited. Generally, they are intended for enemy combatants, unlawful belligerents, and those who violate the laws of war. Applying them to a U.S. citizen, especially a former president, raises serious constitutional concerns. The Fifth Amendment guarantees due process, and the Sixth Amendment guarantees the right to a jury trial.

 

Why It’s Unlikely, But Not Impossible

 

Several factors make it incredibly difficult for an ex-president to face a military tribunal for treason:

 

Citizen Status: As a former president, the individual remains a U.S. citizen and is entitled to the full protection of the Constitution. The Supreme Court has repeatedly emphasized the importance of civilian courts for trying civilians accused of crimes.

Lack of Enemy Combatant Status:Military tribunals are typically reserved for enemy combatants captured in armed conflict. A former president, even if accused of treason, is unlikely to fall under this definition unless directly engaged in active hostilities against the United States.

Treason is a Civilian Crime:Treason is codified in federal law (18 U.S. Code § 2381) and is typically prosecuted in civilian federal courts.

Potential for Political Motivation: The optics of a military tribunal trying a former president would be highly problematic, raising serious concerns about political motivation and the erosion of civilian control over the military.

Due Process Concerns:Military tribunals generally afford fewer procedural protections than civilian courts, raising concerns about due process rights guaranteed by the Fifth Amendment.

However, a hypothetical scenario could potentially justify a military tribunal, although it would face intense legal challenges:

 

Active Hostilities and Material Support: If a former president, after leaving office, actively engaged in levying war against the United States or provided direct and material support to a declared enemy of the U.S. during a time of declared war or congressionally authorized military action, and these actions occurred outside the United States where civilian courts lack practical jurisdiction, a military tribunal might be considered.

Loss of Citizenship:While highly unlikely, if the former president were to renounce their U.S. citizenship and then engage in acts of treason by actively supporting an enemy, their status as a U.S. citizen, and therefore their constitutional protections associated with that status, would be weakened.

Even in these extreme scenarios, the legal hurdles would be immense. The government would need to demonstrate a compelling need for a military tribunal and overcome numerous constitutional challenges.

 

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Anonymous ID: 445d51 July 23, 2025, 5:54 p.m. No.23371424   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1430 >>1436

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==FAQs: Treason, Ex-Presidents, and Military Tribunals=

 

Here are some frequently asked questions to provide further clarity:

 

1. What specific actions would constitute treason by a former president?

 

Levying war against the U.S., providing aid and comfort to enemies during a declared war, actively recruiting soldiers for an enemy army, or divulging classified military secrets directly to an enemy with the intent to harm the United States. This is a high bar.

 

2. Can a former president be impeached after leaving office?

 

No. Impeachment is a process for removing a sitting president from office. Once the term ends, impeachment is no longer an option.

 

3. Can a former president be arrested and tried in a civilian court for treason?

 

Yes, absolutely. This is the most likely scenario. Treason is a federal crime, and former presidents are subject to the same laws as any other citizen.

 

4. What is the standard of proof required for a treason conviction?

 

The Constitution requires two witnesses to the same overt act of treason or a confession in open court. This is a higher standard than “beyond a reasonable doubt” used in most other criminal cases.

 

5. What are the potential punishments for treason?

 

Treason is punishable by death or imprisonment for not less than five years, a fine, and ineligibility to hold any office under the United States.

 

6. Can Congress create a special court to try a former president?

 

Potentially, but it would face serious constitutional challenges. Such a court would need to adhere to due process requirements and respect the separation of powers. It is highly unlikely to be upheld.

 

7. What is the difference between treason and sedition?

 

Treason involves direct action against the United States, such as aiding an enemy. Sedition involves inciting rebellion or advocating for the overthrow of the government, but without necessarily providing aid to an enemy.

 

8. Does the President’s power to pardon extend to treason?

 

Yes. The President has the power to grant pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment. This includes the power to pardon someone convicted of treason.

 

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Anonymous ID: 445d51 July 23, 2025, 5:55 p.m. No.23371430   🗄️.is 🔗kun

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9. What role does the military play in investigating potential treason?

 

Federal law enforcement agencies, such as the FBI, are typically responsible for investigating potential treason cases. The military might be involved if the treasonous acts involve military information or personnel.

 

10. Can a former president claim executive privilege to avoid testifying in a treason investigation?

 

Executive privilege is a complex legal doctrine. While it can protect certain communications made during the presidency, it is not absolute and may not apply to communications related to criminal activity, especially after leaving office. Courts would likely balance the need for confidentiality against the need for evidence in a criminal investigation.

 

11. Are there any historical examples of former presidents facing criminal charges after leaving office?

 

Yes. While not for treason, several former presidents have faced legal scrutiny and, in some cases,criminal charges after leaving office, often related to financial matters or abuse of power.

 

12. What international laws might apply to a former president accused of treason?

 

If the treasonous acts occur outside the United States and involve violations of international law, such as war crimes or crimes against humanity, the former president could potentially face prosecution in international courts, like the International Criminal Court (ICC), although the US does not recognize the ICC.

 

13. How does the Insurrection Act relate to potential treason charges?

 

The Insurrection Act allows the President to deploy the military to suppress insurrections and enforce federal laws.If a former president were involved in inciting or supporting an insurrection, they could potentially face charges related to rebellion or sedition, which could potentially escalate to treasonif they aided a foreign power.(UK, Italy, Germany, Vatican?)

 

14. What are the political ramifications of pursuing treason charges against a former president?

 

The political ramifications would be immense and highly divisive. It would likely further polarize the country and could be seen as a politically motivated attack, regardless of the merits of the case.

 

15. Would a military tribunal for a former president undermine public trust in the justice system?

 

It could. Using a military tribunal for a civilian, especially a former president, could be perceivedas a departure from established legal norms and could erode public confidence in the fairness and impartiality of the justice system. Civilian courts are generally seen as the appropriate venue for trying civilians accused of crimes.

 

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There’s at least 2-3 ways an ex president can be charged with treason or insurrections

Anonymous ID: 445d51 July 23, 2025, 6:10 p.m. No.23371484   🗄️.is 🔗kun

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So if the court can prove Obama was never a legal citizen, he can be charged with Treason, especially due to his vows to fundamentally transform the U.S. as an enemy combatant that used other countries To overthrow America.

 

There are quite a few ways to charge Obama for destroying America and the Presidency of the U.S.

 

maybe that’s why Tulsi and Trump have mentioned treasonhe was illegal and an enemy combatant, so he can be charged by the laws of U.S. and Military law.

 

The number one thing is he is and was a Manchurian Candidate, remember that was Trump’s first thing he said and Obama called him out at the WH media dinner.Trump doesn’t get over being condemned when they are lying, and it’s true what he said. After all Trump is right again.

 

I don’t think Obama and his lying traitors understand how long Trump has been working on this. Never underestimate Trump. Guaranteed Trumps team has gone WW to the whistleblowers that can prove the treason.

 

I don’t understand why they don’t get itObama is no longer the smooth liar he’s always been

Anonymous ID: 445d51 July 23, 2025, 6:55 p.m. No.23371692   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1707 >>1711 >>1945 >>2171 >>2179

Powell to leave fed chair in May: Scott Bessent paints the picture

U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent breaks down President Donald Trump’s trade deals, Federal Reserve chair Jerome Powell and more

 

11:54

 

https://youtu.be/dI9pb_i1yuE

Anonymous ID: 445d51 July 23, 2025, 7:17 p.m. No.23371847   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1945 >>2171 >>2179

Watters: This is how the Russia hoax was born

Fox News host Jesse Watters gives his take on the Russiagate scandal of former President Barack Obama and his administration

 

8:34

 

https://youtu.be/zERhFN1JNS0

Anonymous ID: 445d51 July 23, 2025, 7:37 p.m. No.23371966   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>2002 >>2171 >>2179

The Five’: Gabbard calls out Obama for ‘treasonous’ conspiracy

‘The Five’ discusses how Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard is threatening prosecution for former President Barack Obama. (Remember Fox gets 3x the audience any other media get daily)

 

6:39

 

https://youtu.be/JakDDKoiqpA

Anonymous ID: 445d51 July 23, 2025, 7:45 p.m. No.23372007   🗄️.is 🔗kun

‘The Five’: Dems have a new radical on their roster

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7:51

 

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Anonymous ID: 445d51 July 23, 2025, 8:22 p.m. No.23372142   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>2148

Hunter Biden rages against ‘f***ing thug’ Trump, invokes KKK in immigration rant

Fox News contributor Hugh Hewitt discusses Hunter Biden’s interview surrounding illegal immigration and new information arising in the Trump-Russia probe on ‘America Reports.

(Did they roll out Hunter to see if a drug addict could get elected? It’s happened many times before. After all they voted for a dementia patient!)

 

7:54

 

https://youtu.be/2O1ZbzyGbcM

Anonymous ID: 445d51 July 23, 2025, 8:40 p.m. No.23372215   🗄️.is 🔗kun

They KNEW it was all phony, but kept silent anyway: Gregg Jarrett

Fox News legal analyst Gregg Jarrett joins 'Fox & Friends' to discuss why he believes Harvard incriminated itself in its legal fight against the Trump administration and his reaction to Tulsi Gabbard's DNI report on the Trump-Russia narrative.

(I feel sorry for the Russian people they have been discriminated against in almost every country of Europe, that they used to vacation every year, that’s what Obama et al created). Now they are doing it to Americans.!

 

Bottom line: Harvard is fucked

 

6:07

 

https://youtu.be/tJapzLTkSN0

Anonymous ID: 445d51 July 23, 2025, 9:05 p.m. No.23372282   🗄️.is 🔗kun

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11:37

 

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11:37