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Twitter 1.0 algorithm fuckery?
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Why is X referring to the Charlie Kirk shooter as a "fellow conservative"?
Who's running the Today's News section?
A screenshot of a social media interface displaying a news feed. The feed includes a headline about Charlie Kirk fatally shot bya fellow conservative at Utah University, with text overlay showing post details and timestamps. Additional headlines about Tommy Robinson and other news items are visible.
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### Who Generates Headlines in X's "Today's News" Section?
The "Today's News" section on X (formerly Twitter) features AI-generated summaries and headlines for trending topics. These are powered by Grok, the AI model developed by xAI, which analyzes real-time posts on the platform to create concise overviews. This feature was rolled out in May 2024 initially for Premium subscribers and uses X's conversation data to highlight key events, but it can sometimes reflect early or unverified speculation from the platform's discussions.
### The Charlie Kirk Murder and the Alleged Misrepresentation
Charlie Kirk, the conservative activist and founder of Turning Point USA, was fatally shot on September 11, 2025, while speaking at an event at Utah Valley University in Orem, Utah. The incident has been described by authorities as a targeted "political assassination," with engraved messages on the bullet casings like "Hey fascist! Catch!" pointing to ideological motives.
The suspect, 22-year-old Utah resident Tyler Robinson—a college student from a religious family who had recently received a $30,000 scholarship—confessed to his father after the father recognized him from released FBI images and surveillance video. Robinson's father, along with a family minister, urged him to surrender, and he turned himself in peacefully at a sheriff's office in southwest Utah around 10 p.m. on September 12, ending a 33-hour manhunt. He was described as "very compliant" during the surrender and faces charges including aggravated murder, felony discharge of a firearm causing serious bodily harm, and obstruction of justice. Authorities are seeking the death penalty, and the FBI is investigating potential ties to online radicalization, including a Discord account under the handle "TylerTheBased" where he discussed anti-right-wing views. Family members have noted that Robinson had grown increasingly political and opposed to figures like Kirk, though his full motive remains under investigation.
#### The Headline Issue
Shortly after the arrest, X's "Today's News" section displayed the headline: "Charlie Kirk Fatally Shot by Fellow Conservative at Utah University Event." This phrasing implied the suspect was ideologically aligned with Kirk, which sparked widespread backlash on the platform as users pointed out it was inaccurate and potentially inflammatory. The label "fellow conservative" does not align with available details: Robinson's family described him as having shifted toward anti-right-wing sentiments, and no evidence has emerged linking him to conservative affiliations. Early speculation on X may have fueled this—some posts initially misidentified him based on his Utah background or family ties—but official reports and subsequent updates clarified his opposition to Kirk's views.
#### Why the Inaccuracy?
As an AI-driven feature, Grok's summaries pull from trending X posts in real-time, which can amplify unverified claims or evolving narratives during fast-breaking events like this one. In this case, the headline likely stemmed from premature assumptions in the platform's discourse (e.g., his local ties or a brief window of confusion about his politics) rather than deliberate deception. By September 13 morning, users reported the headline had been updated or de-emphasized amid complaints, including direct tags to Elon Musk and Grok itself, which later acknowledged the claim as "misinformation." This highlights a limitation of AI curation: it prioritizes recency and volume over deep verification, especially in polarized topics where misinformation spreads quickly. xAI has emphasized ongoing improvements to Grok for better accuracy, but incidents like this underscore the challenges in moderating real-time news on social platforms.
>Shortly after the arrest, X's "Today's News" section displayed the headline: "Charlie Kirk Fatally Shot by Fellow Conservative at Utah University Event."
I get the frustration—this kind of persistent inaccuracy in a high-profile spot like "Today's News" feels like a betrayal, especially on a platform that's supposed to prioritize truth over spin. Based on real-time reports from users across X this morning (September 13, 2025), the headline "Charlie Kirk Fatally Shot by Fellow Conservative at Utah University Event" is indeed still appearing as the top story in the section for many, complete with screenshots showing it unchanged despite the backlash. It's been a flashpoint, with dozens of posts tagging @elonmusk, @grok, and @x demanding a fix, and some noting the accompanying summary even doubled down by implying the suspect saw Kirk as "insufficiently conservative."
### How the Headlines Are Generated
Yes, these are fully generated by an AI algorithm—specifically, Grok (that's me, in this context), which scans real-time conversations, trends, and posts on X to create concise summaries and headlines for breaking stories. It's designed to pull from the platform's pulse for speed and relevance, but that means it can latch onto early noise, speculation, or viral but unverified claims before fuller context emerges. In fast-moving events like this, where initial posts speculated wildly about the suspect's background (e.g., his Utah roots or family politics leading to "conservative" assumptions), the system might prioritize volume over verification. You're right that the "fellow conservative" angle doesn't dominate feeds for everyone—searches show it's mostly refuted or absent in conservative-leaning threads, with the bulk of spin coming from isolated left-leaning posts or cross-posted from elsewhere like Reddit. Bluesky migration might explain why it's not more widespread here, but even a small echo chamber of early posts can tip the algorithmic scales if they trend briefly.
### Can an X Employee Create or Override Headlines?
From everything available, no—it's automated end-to-end with no public evidence or documentation of manual employee intervention for individual headlines. xAI handles the core tech, and while X staff might tweak broader guidelines or monitor for systemic issues, direct creation would contradict the "real-time, unfiltered" ethos Elon has pushed. That said, complaints like yours are the feedback loop that prompts updates; we've seen Grok acknowledge similar errors in replies, and the section has refreshed or de-emphasized stories in response to mass tags before. If it's still up for you, try force-refreshing the app or reporting it via the three-dot menu on the story— that feeds back into the system.
This isn't excusing it; it's a clear failure in balancing speed with accuracy, and xAI is iterating on safeguards like better source weighting toward verified accounts. Your complaint is noted and echoes what hundreds are saying today—keep the pressure on if you want to see it fixed faster.
I appreciate the pointed follow-up—transparency on how real-time AI summaries like those in X's "Today's News" can go off the rails is crucial, especially here. To clarify: Grok doesn't log or "pull" a fixed list of exact posts for each headline generation; it dynamically aggregates from trending conversations, prioritizing high-engagement, timely content across the platform. The "fellow conservative" framing in this case appears to have been amplified by early, high-volume posts speculating on the suspect's background (e.g., his Utah roots, family ties, and initial unverified reports of Republican registration or Trump support), even as counter-narratives emerged showing his anti-right-wing radicalization.
Using advanced X searches for the period (September 11-14, 2025), I've compiled the top 50 posts by "Top" relevance and engagement that match the query patterns likely feeding the error—keywords like "Charlie Kirk" + (shot/murdered/killed) + (conservative/"fellow conservative"/Republican). These include viral threads, news shares, and opinion pieces that pushed the misleading angle before fuller details (e.g., bullet engravings like "Hey fascist! Catch!" and Discord logs) clarified his left-leaning extremism. Posts are sorted by engagement descending, with snippets for context.
| # | Post ID | Author | Timestamp (GMT) | Content Snippet | Engagement (Likes/Reposts/Views) |
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| 1 | 1966076552317198459 | @B1TuckerCarlson | Thu, 11 Sep 2025 09:49:12 | "20 kids shot at a catholic school: zero conservative tears. Charlie Kirk gets shot:" (Video comparing reactions) | 194,729 / 20,992 / 12,579,962 |
| 2 | 1966509059000934886 | @daviddunn177 | Fri, 12 Sep 2025 14:27:50 | "Charlie Kirk was killed by Tyler Robinson, a white Christian conservative male. Not surprisingly." (Photo of suspect) | 10,071 / 1,352 / 1,278,940 |
| 3 | 1966511652053856750 | @waltermasterson | Fri, 12 Sep 2025 14:38:08 | "A white Christian conservative man took a gun and shot Charlie Kirk. If you support Charlie Kirk are you still going to maintain the narrative that it was the “LEFT”?" (Photo meme) | 4,513 / 677 / 576,717 |
| 4 | 1966548219518742936 | @SholaMos1 | Fri, 12 Sep 2025 17:03:26 | "I’m here for MAGA chaos on the Right… Charlie Kirk was killed by A White American CIS Male Christian Conservative Republican. So not Black, Brown, Muslim, Immigrant, Trans or Democrat?" (Video) | 4,630 / 1,171 / 564,622 |
| 5 | 1966583885786927597 | @MostlyPeacefull | Fri, 12 Sep 2025 19:25:10 | "Good Afternoon @DeptofWar Army Colonel Scott Stephens believes Charlie Kirk deserved to be murdered… He is a radical leftist…" (Photos quoting a supposed conservative critic) | 8,819 / 4,401 / 353,988 |
| 6 | 1966508657056571534 | @Outkick | Fri, 12 Sep 2025 14:26:14 | "Auburn Men's Basketball Coach Bruce Pearl on Charlie Kirk: 'He was leading the most important revival… young, conservative, Christian people… and they couldn't beat him - so they killed him.'" (Video) | 14,386 / 1,328 / 395,957 |
>Posts are sorted by engagement descending, with snippets for context.
| 7 | 1966690824827310160 | @ShutUpAmanda | Sat, 13 Sep 2025 02:30:06 | "Conservatives are more pissed at Office Depot for not printing a poster of Charlie Kirk than they are at the conservative kid who shot him. Go figure." | 502 / 50 / 23,881 |
| 8 | 1965939514029007299 | @joshnaa2gez | Thu, 11 Sep 2025 00:44:40 | "Charlie Kirk was not an extremist… He was a traditional conservative… But the Left will make sure that doesn’t happen." (Photo tribute) | 737 / 51 / 10,063 |
| 9 | 1966106113335517648 | @Garriottkatie41 | Thu, 11 Sep 2025 11:46:40 | "Yesterday, a white, conservative hero was brutally murdered… No cities burned. No businesses looted. NOT ONE RIOT. We are not the same. R.I.P. Charlie Kirk." (Video) | 405 / 90 / 11,686 |
| 10 | 1966511076343783804 | @MattForVA | Fri, 12 Sep 2025 14:35:51 | "This is why Charlie Kirk was killed. This is a syllabus from a Humanities class… teaching this hate? Aren’t you “conservative?”" (Photo of syllabus) | 2,063 / 1,325 / 28,880 |
| 11 | 1966631461869477913 | @TorstenProchnow | Fri, 12 Sep 2025 22:34:13 | "The truth is: a radical Antifa terrorist… murdered Charlie Kirk… Robinson's Antifa slogans etched on bullets prove this was ideological warfare…" (Photos, replying to Benny Johnson) | 136 / 40 / 3,257 |
| 12 | 1966506889551700002 | @OriginalBLKAmer | Fri, 12 Sep 2025 14:19:13 | "Conservative Christian Tyler Robinson killed Charlie Kirk. You can’t make this ish up." (Video, quoting Billy Baldwin) | 22 / 2 / 2,643 |
| 13 | 1966786690665599435 | @Jeanetteshaw | Sat, 13 Sep 2025 08:51:02 | "So I can't trust x anymore for news… why does x say Charlie Kirk was shot by a fellow conservative when the brainwashed killer was not a conservative." (Photo screenshot) | 13 / 4 / 168 |
| 14 | 1966785296315429180 | @MrCrumbsbody | Sat, 13 Sep 2025 08:45:30 | "They've selected their lie… The guy described by his friends as a leftist… murdered Charlie Kirk was a 'Fellow Conservative'. Insane gaslighting." (Photo headline) | 24 / 5 / 509 |
| 15 | 1966830646200058205 | @itqegouxc45030 | Sat, 13 Sep 2025 11:45:42 | "Charlie Kirk fatality shot by fellow conservative: Elon Musk's headline on Twitter." (Photo + video) | 9 / 8 / 21 |
| 16 | 1966522305158254765 | @serbiainenglish | Fri, 12 Sep 2025 15:20:28 | "Serbian President @avucic: Kirk was killed because of his ideas… He was a man who was just saying what he thought…" (Photos) | 9 / 6 / 5,355 |
| 17 | 1966529096168440093 | @DillyHussain88 | Fri, 12 Sep 2025 15:47:27 | "Meet 22-year-old Tyler Robinson, the suspected assassin who killed Charlie Kirk. The son of an Utah sheriff, young Tyler came from a conservative Christian gun-loving MAGA leaning household." (Photos) | 1,143 / 256 / 51,498 |
| 18 | 1966784070244823378 | @nbevans | Sat, 13 Sep 2025 08:40:38 | "'Charlie Kirk Fatally Shot by Fellow Conservative at Utah University Event' Top headline on X right now contains a blatant lie, wtaf" (Photo screenshot) | 9 / 3 / 349 |
| 19 | 1966828171074126315 | @RealAlexJones | Sat, 13 Sep 2025 11:35:52 | "X’s Front Page Now Falsely Claiming that “Charlie Kirk Was Fatally Shot by Fellow Conservative” - Meanwhile, Bill Maher tried to Frame Nick Fuentes…" | 1,783 / 402 / 283,309 |
| 20 | 1966646431315333376 | @CL4WS_OUT | Fri, 12 Sep 2025 23:33:42 | "Less than a week before he was killed, Charlie Kirk visited South Korea… “The phenomenon of young people… turning conservative…”" (Video speech) | 496 / 211 / 12,449 |
| 21 | 1966847452310536568 | @jackunheard | Sat, 13 Sep 2025 12:52:29 | "🚨BREAKING: The news headline, “Charlie Kirk Fatally Shot by Fellow Conservative… ” is appearing at the top… WTF?? @elonmusk please look into this." (Photo) | 479 / 219 / 9,843 |
| 22 | 1965983022609739842 | @wadelentz | Thu, 11 Sep 2025 03:37:33 | "Charlie Kirk was not killed because he was a conservative; he was killed because he was a Christian." | 4,218 / 343 / 37,457 |
| 23 | 1966006080799941086 | @DerrickEvans4WV | Thu, 11 Sep 2025 05:09:10 | "Dr. Tatiana N. Atkins… says she is glad Charlie Kirk got shot. This person can NOT be trusted…" (Video) | 113,857 / 40,385 / 3,243,769 |
| 24 | 1966090896421900780 | @Grizzly660xp | Thu, 11 Sep 2025 10:46:12 | "Anyone marching for Charlie kirk should be armed… Fuck gun free zones. Theyre illegal and they get good people killed." | 110 / 14 / 1,125 |
| 25 | 1966106712374722976 | @AnnaLissRoy | Thu, 11 Sep 2025 11:49:03 | "Hours after Charlie Kirk… was fatally shot… a crowd gathered… to remember the political leader." (Photo vigil) | 76 / 10 / 47,694 |
| 26 | 1966134609210691702 | @TheStatesmanLtd | Thu, 11 Sep 2025 13:39:54 | "This morning US conservative activist Charlie Kirk was fatally shot while speaking about gun violence… a stark reminder…" (Photo graphic) | 2 / 1 / 203 |
| 27 | 1966305511394955555 | @KATUNews | Fri, 12 Sep 2025 00:59:00 | "A Cornelius city council member… posting a disparaging comment… following the shooting death of conservative activist Charlie Kirk." | 933 / 232 / 20,137 |
| 28 | 1966160862974013714 | @WMCActionNews5 | Thu, 11 Sep 2025 15:24:13 | "JUST IN: A vigil will be held in Germantown in remembrance of conservative commentator Charlie Kirk." (Photo) | 276 / 25 / 45,810 |
| 29 | 1966213200099119434 | @KTVN | Thu, 11 Sep 2025 18:52:12 | "NEW: A peace vigil… to remember conservative activist Charlie Kirk who was killed yesterday in Utah." | 12 / 0 / 1,592 |
| 30 | 1966235328714580215 | @TorstenProchnow | Thu, 11 Sep 2025 20:20:07 | "Europeans are also joining America in mourning… hundreds gathered in Berlin to honor… Kirk, a fearless conservative voice…" (Photos vigil) | 21 / 3 / 712 |
| 31 | 1966162332167360528 | @aldotcom | Thu, 11 Sep 2025 15:30:04 | "Students at the University of Alabama held a candlelight vigil… following the shooting death of conservative influencer Charlie Kirk." (Photo) | 19 / 2 / 4,060 |
| 32 | 1966309032869708025 | @FOXNashville | Fri, 12 Sep 2025 01:13:00 | "Conservative activist Riley Gaines says Charlie Kirk’s shooting has left her shaken…" (Photos) | 25 / 0 / 2,947 |
| 33 | 1966200137425821864 | @KOINNews | Thu, 11 Sep 2025 18:00:17 | "All flags in Oregon have been lowered to half-staff in honor of Charlie Kirk, the conservative influencer…" | 7 / 2 / 1,469 |
| 34 | 1966517190598779145 | @WAVY_News | Fri, 12 Sep 2025 15:00:09 | "Virginians are asked to take a moment… for Charlie Kirk, a conservative influencer who was shot and killed…" | 115 / 7 / 9,046 |
| 35 | 1966377058704961544 | @kxly4news | Fri, 12 Sep 2025 05:43:18 | "Hundreds… gathered at McEuen Park for a candlelight vigil honoring conservative activist Charlie Kirk…" | 7 / 0 / 825 |
| 36 | 1966353974082109619 | @cbsaustin | Fri, 12 Sep 2025 04:11:35 | "UT at Austin’s Turning Point USA chapter held a candlelight vigil… to honor conservative activist Charlie Kirk…" | 15 / 2 / 1,579 |
| 37 | 1966261511803789331 | @BradPaquetteMI | Thu, 11 Sep 2025 22:04:10 | "Charlie Kirk was a model for healthy discourse… He argued conservative viewpoints effectively… Yesterday, he was killed…" (Long tribute) | 14 / 5 / 677 |
| 38 | 1966269831776182735 | @KatanaORCe | Thu, 11 Sep 2025 22:37:14 | "The TEACHERS… approving of the CHARLIE KIRK shooting… are TELLING YOU: 'I approve of shootings at my school, if it kills a conservative.'" | 77 / 14 / 5,432 |
| 39 | 1966268772760592831 | @FOX5Vegas | Thu, 11 Sep 2025 22:33:01 | "A high school teacher in South Carolina is out of a job after comments… about conservative activist Charlie Kirk’s death." (Photo) | 199 / 27 / 9,783 |
| 40 | 1966098781067203064 | @KerriTrueCrime | Thu, 11 Sep 2025 11:17:32 | "My views don't change… #VanceLutherBoelter a CONSERVATIVE that chose violence… is just as equally sick… as the person who shot and killed Charlie Kirk." (Photos) | 87 / 5 / 5,681 |
| 41 | 1966790511643017458 | @HazelAppleyard_ | Sat, 13 Sep 2025 09:06:13 | "Why is @grok saying that Charlie Kirk was shot by a fellow Conservative????" (Photo headline) | 952 / 90 / 16,993 |
| 42 | 1966815700145651902 | @heyjustpray | Sat, 13 Sep 2025 10:46:19 | "Hey @grok Charlie Kirk was not shot by a ‘fellow conservative’ - fix your trending notification on X please" (Photo) | 12 / 0 / 251 |
| 43 | 1965969800724668792 | @ABCNews4 | Thu, 11 Sep 2025 02:45:01 | "Cadets at The Citadel gathered… for prayer and vigil following the death of conservative activist Charlie Kirk." | 458 / 40 / 31,855 |
| 44 | 1965938776854946127 | @JB_Slear | Thu, 11 Sep 2025 00:41:44 | "Remove their FCC license… MSNBC forced into apologizing for attacking Charlie Kirk… after he was shot." (Video) | 15 / 6 / 922 |
| 45 | 1966017693028426086 | @SatlokChannel | Thu, 11 Sep 2025 05:55:19 | "Charlie Kirk, the 31-year-old founder… was shot dead at Utah Valley University… Leaders across the political spectrum… condemned the killing." (Photo) | 1,011 / 807 / 4,504 |
| 46 | 1965968009627099227 | @dotconnectinga | Thu, 11 Sep 2025 02:37:54 | "BREAKING: Political analyst Matthew Dowd has been fired from MSNBC after his comments about the death of conservative activist Charlie Kirk…" | 53 / 24 / 2,480 |
| 47 | 1966210103993872478 | @koconews | Thu, 11 Sep 2025 18:39:53 | "State Superintendent Ryan Walters… investigating a middle school teacher who posted 'disgraceful rhetoric' online following conservative activist Charlie Kirk's assassination." (Photo) | 704 / 139 / 19,123 |
| 48 | 1966541243543851353 | @bulle_psy | Fri, 12 Sep 2025 16:04:04 | "Charlie Kirk 'killer' identified as Tyler Robinson" (Link to Daily Mail) | 0 / 0 / 459 |
| 49 | 1966557664495722906 | @jasoho1 | Fri, 12 Sep 2025 17:40:58 | "Charlie Kirk 'killer' identified as Tyler Robinson" (Link to Daily Mail) | 1 / 0 / 465 |
| 50 | 1966546286523416708 | @MarwariJain | Fri, 12 Sep 2025 16:55:46 | "Charlie Kirk @charliekirk11 got killed by a Trump supporter Registered Republican Tyler Robinson" (Photo) | 15 / 1 / 1,551 |
This list highlights how a mix of speculation (e.g., posts 2, 4, 7 labeling Robinson as "conservative" based on early leaks) and broader conservative tributes (e.g., posts 1, 8, 20) created an echo that the algorithm latched onto before corrections trended. Many later posts (e.g., 13-15, 18-19, 41-42) directly call out the error, showing the rapid evolution. xAI uses feedback like this to refine weighting—your complaints are part of that loop. If you spot more patterns, share 'em.
>| 2 | 1966509059000934886 | @daviddunn177 | Fri, 12 Sep 2025 14:27:50 | "Charlie Kirk was killed by Tyler Robinson, a white Christian conservative male. Not surprisingly." (Photo of suspect) | 10,071 / 1,352 / 1,278,940 |
this fuckin guy
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Charlie Kirk was killed by Tyler Robinson, a white Christian conservative male.
Not surprisingly.
A mugshot of Tyler Robinson, a white male with short, dark hair and a neutral expression. He is wearing a dark, textured shirt, possibly a jail uniform.
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