>they are committing a federal crime.
How? The act of causing termination of employment does not restrict free speech.
>they are committing a federal crime.
How? The act of causing termination of employment does not restrict free speech.
>What is a crime is to conspire with others to get the employee fired
Being fired does not limit the fired employee's right to free speech.
>the employer
Working for the employer or being terminated from the employer have no bearing on the right to free speech. They spoke publicly, the public objected, the employer sided with the public, the employer dismissed the employee. That's free speech.
Being fired does not limit my free speech.
>18 USC 241.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/241
Precisely. Getting someone fired does not limit their exercising of the right to free speech.
>Being fired provides a consequence w/out limiting ones free speech.
Exactly. One's employment status does not effect the right to free speech.
Free speech can have consequences - Johnny Paycheck.
>That's a crime under the law.
No. During and after firing no one has been deprived of free speech. The targets still have the right to free speech after losing their employment.
>the crime is conspiring against someone because of their free speech.
But their free speech, i.e. the right in question, was not deprived.
>in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege
The free exercise or enjoyment of a right or privilege has not been impacted by the firing. The subjects had the right to free speech before the firing as well as after the firing. Even amongst the unemployed, their free exercise or enjoyment of the right to free speech or enjoyment of free speech have not been impacted. If all of 8kun conspired to complain and get a Raging Tranny fired for shitposting about Mr. Kirk no crime has been committed. We would have gotten another raging tranny fired without limiting the raging tranny's exercise of or enjoyment of a protected right or privilege.
>Doesn't have to be, that's not what the law says.
'in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution'
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/241
>no right has to actually be deprived,
'If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution'
Again: 'in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution'.
18 U.S. Code ยง 241 - Conspiracy against rights
'in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution'.
>You have a RIGHT to free speech, and it is a CRIME to conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate, any person for exercising that right.
Agreed completely. Complaining and getting someone fired does not limit their right to free speech in any way.
>>23620576
>whether or not the free speech was actually deprived.
'in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution'.
18 U.S. Code ยง 241 - Conspiracy against rights
The law is conspiracy against rights, not conspiracy against speech. If /qresearch conspired to complain about Polishedturd24 and Polishedturd24 got fired, how has our conspiracy deprived Polishedturd24 of a right or privilege protected under the US Constitution?
>>23620593
>Conspiring to contact employers to get them fired does.
Negative.
" is a CRIME to conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate, any person for exercising that right."
Again: "for exercising that right."
The conspirators have not deprived the target of a protected right or privilege. The conspirators just got they/them fired, that's all.
>>23620639
On the contrary, the law is quite clear. In the USA it is illegal to conspire to deprive any person of a protected right or privilege.
>Read 18 USC 241.
The law is quite clear. In the USA it is illegal to conspire to deprive any person of a protected right or privilege.
'Section 241 makes it unlawful for two or more persons to agree to injure, threaten, or intimidate a person in the United States in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured by the Constitution or laws of the United States or because of his or her having exercised such a right.'
https://www.justice.gov/crt/statutes-enforced-criminal-section
Complaining to an employer does not deprive an individual of exercising a protected right or privilege. Being employed is not a right or privilege.
>>23620725
>CONSPIRING to complain to employers
So we conspired. Let's accept that. A conspiracy occurred.
What protected right or privilege was affected by this conspiracy?
https://www.justice.gov/crt/statutes-enforced-criminal-section
Section 241 makes it unlawful for two or more persons to agree to injure, threaten, or intimidate a person in the United States in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured by the Constitution or laws of the United States or because of his or her having exercised such a right.
https://www.justice.gov/crt/statutes-enforced-criminal-section
Title 18, U.S.C., Section 241 - Conspiracy Against Rights
This statute makes it unlawful for two or more persons to conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person of any state, territory or district in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him/her by the Constitution or the laws of the United States, (or because of his/her having exercised the same).
It further makes it unlawful for two or more persons to go in disguise on the highway or on the premises of another with the intent to prevent or hinder his/her free exercise or enjoyment of any rights so secured.
https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/civil-rights/federal-civil-rights-statutes
>>23620756
>No where does it say the right has to be deprived.
"in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him/her by the Constitution"
18 U.S. Code ยง 241 - Conspiracy against rights
If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person โฆ in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution โฆ
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/241
Title 18, U.S.C., Section 241 - Conspiracy Against Rights
This statute makes it unlawful for two or more persons to conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person of any state, territory or district in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him/her by the Constitution or the laws of the United States, (or because of his/her having exercised the same).
It further makes it unlawful for two or more persons to go in disguise on the highway or on the premises of another with the intent to prevent or hinder his/her free exercise or enjoyment of any rights so secured.
https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/civil-rights/federal-civil-rights-statutes
>>23620784
>in this case free speech.
An employer fired an employee. How has the right to free speech been denied to the fired employee?
Section 241 says: If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person โฆ in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution โฆ
How did the alleged conspiracy injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate, any person in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution, Anon?
>>23620839
>OR
>B. because of his having so exercised the same
So how has the fired employee been deprived of a right or privilege protected under the Constitution, Anon?
So this 'conspiracy' was an effort to accomplish what? Essentially the public complained about Internet posts made by people who were subsequently fired. The 'conspiracy' people did not fire them. The 'conspiracy' people complained and left the matter up to the employers. Where is the crime OR did you not think that far ahead?