I bookmarked this to watch later which is now. I'd watched the first 10 minutes where I learned the Duffy's raise 9 children and his wife was very close to CK… starting naow…
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Secretary Sean Duffy - NASA is Going Back to the Moon for the First Time in 54 Years | SRS #251
Shawn Ryan Show
2:41:46
https://youtu.be/7Vjh7pbMJI0