It's fine. Cooks faster that way.
Constantly blotting fake tears at every event. Makeup never runs.
Funny, but it looks fake to me. Ball seems to come off of the center of his nose. Probably ai. Either that or he's snorting rock, which is like diet coke. Not getting any sugar out of that.
>Does anyone have these 19 points? We need to take a look.
The 19-Point US-Ukraine Peace Framework for Ukraine-Russia (as of November 25, 2025)The full text of the revised 19-point plan remains unpublished, as confirmed by multiple sources including CSIS analysis and U.S. officials. It stems from streamlining the original 28-point proposal (leaked November 21), incorporating European counter-proposals, and addressing Ukraine's red lines during Geneva talks. Sensitive issues (e.g., full territorial recognition, NATO membership) are "bracketed" for direct resolution by Presidents Trump, Zelenskyy, and Putin.Based on reports from ABC News, The Guardian, Reuters, BBC, The Washington Post, and Axios, here's a reconstructed list of the core provisions. These are synthesized from described changes—removals (e.g., forced Donbas handover, strict 600,000-troop cap, wartime amnesty), additions (e.g., IAEA role at Zaporizhzhia), and modifications (e.g., higher troop limits, conditional sanctions relief). Points are grouped thematically for clarity; exact numbering isn't public.Immediate Ceasefire and Humanitarian Measures (Points 1–5)Unconditional ceasefire: Immediate halt to hostilities along current front lines (as of November 2025), monitored by UN/IAEA observers; no advances permitted.
Prisoner and detainee exchanges: Full swap of all captives, including POWs and civilians, starting with wounded and under-18s; phased over 30 days.
Return of deported children: Russia to repatriate all Ukrainian children (est. 19,000+) via international oversight; includes family reunification support.
Humanitarian corridors: Safe passage for aid, evacuations, and demined Black Sea routes for grain exports.
Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant: IAEA takes full control; 50/50 electricity split between Ukraine and Russia; demilitarized zone established.
Territorial and Sovereignty Issues (Points 6–8)Current lines freeze: Ceasefire holds at existing boundaries; no forced Ukrainian concessions on Luhansk, Donetsk, Kherson, or Zaporizhzhia (deferred to leader-level talks).
Crimea status: Recognition of de facto Russian control suspended; future via diplomacy, tied to Russia's full withdrawal elsewhere.
No annexation validation: Ukraine retains sovereignty claims; Russian "referendums" in occupied areas nullified; recovery via negotiations, not military means.
Security Guarantees and Military Limits (Points 9–12)Ukraine's armed forces cap: Peacetime limit raised to 800,000 personnel (from original 600,000); no wartime restrictions.
NATO and neutrality: Ukraine's NATO path "in brackets" (no eternal ban); U.S./European security guarantees provided (NATO-like Article 5 equivalent for held territories).
Russia-NATO dialogue: Post-agreement talks to address Moscow's concerns; no NATO expansion veto, but de-escalation pledges for eastern flank.
Non-aggression pact: Binding agreement between Russia, Ukraine, and NATO; ambiguities from 1990s resolved via joint working group.
Economic and Reconstruction Provisions (Points 13–15)Sanctions relief: Phased U.S./EU sanctions lift tied to verified Russian withdrawal; full restoration if violated.
Frozen assets redirection: $300B in Russian assets unfrozen; 70% ($100B–$200B) allocated to Ukraine reconstruction (energy, infrastructure).
Rare earth minerals deal: U.S.-Ukraine joint venture for access; Russia excluded unless compliant; Black Sea trade normalized.
Enforcement and Long-Term Oversight (Points 16–19)Joint peace council: U.S.-chaired (by Trump) trilateral body (U.S., Ukraine, Russia) to enforce terms; empowered to impose penalties/sanctions.
No amnesty for war crimes: Accountability via ICC; provisions for low-level combatants only; victims' compensation fund established.
Non-nuclear commitments: Ukraine reaffirms NPT status; U.S.-Russia extend arms control treaties (e.g., New START successor).
Elections and normalization: Ukraine holds elections "as soon as possible" post-ceasefire; diplomatic normalization with Russia conditional on compliance.
This framework is seen as more balanced than the original (which favored Russia), but Russia has called it "unconstructive" and a "failure," per Bloomberg and Kremlin statements, likely rejecting the lack of firm territorial gains and NATO bans.
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>regular rank and file random members are more upset than ever.
Those are the ones that I would want to be upset. Sounds like things are going as planned.
>thought it was 28 points?
Just entered other anon's query. I dunno. It's not published, just what Grok could gather.