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>>23952379

Who is "P."?

Forme(s) rejetée(s) :

< Péladan (1858-1918)

< P. (1858-1918)

< Dinska, Anna I. (1858-1918) pseudonyme

< Mérodack, Sar (1858-1918) pseudonyme

< Peladan, Sar (1858-1918) pseudonyme

< Sarah, Miss (1858-1918) pseudonyme

< Valognes, Marquis de (1858-1918) pseudonyme

founded occult secret society, "Catholic" Christian, associated with the Art World and "aristo" Society, and "symbolist" art movement

Here’s the exact 1880s–1890s Parisian slang meaning of “gaga” as Péladan uses it on page 54 of Istar:gaga (adj., always invariable) = Senile, doddering, half-mad from old age

By extension: ridiculously over-enthusiastic, obsessed, “away with the fairies” in a slightly pathetic way

Very often used for rich old men or society dowagers who are still chasing fashion, art, love affairs, or mysticism long past the age when anyone else cares.

It comes from the onomatopoeic baby-talk “ga-ga” (the noise a toothless old person supposedly makes), and by the 1880s it had become fashionable slang in the boulevards and salons. Think English “dotty,” “doddery,” or modern “boomer energy” but with a cruel, aristocratic sneer.

Istar (1888)

Deserves a Dig.

Co-Founding the Kabbalistic Order of the Rose-Cross (Ordre Kabbalistique de la Rose-Croix, OKRC) in 1888Péladan, along with fellow occultists Stanislas de Guaita and Gérard Encausse (Papus), established this as France's first organized occult society. It focused on Christian Kabbalah, Rosicrucian rituals, Hermeticism, and Martinist initiations, with a hierarchical structure including a Supreme Council of 12 adepts (Péladan was an early member).

The order promoted esoteric teachings through journals like L'Initiation and events such as the 1889 Universal Congress of Spiritualist Philosophers. Péladan's novel Le Vice suprême (which sparked de Guaita's interest in occultism) directly influenced its creation.

He split from the group in 1891 due to doctrinal disputes (e.g., over philosophy and authority), but his role as co-founder is undisputed.

Founding the Order of the Catholic Rose-Cross of the Temple and the Grail (Ordre de la Rose-Croix Catholique du Temple et du Graal) in 1891After his break from the OKRC, Péladan launched this as his own independent Rosicrucian order, styling himself "Sâr" (a self-proclaimed title meaning "king" in ancient Akkadian) and positioning it as a more artistic, Catholic-infused esoteric movement. It emphasized self-initiation, hierarchy, tradition, and the "religion of art" as a path to spiritual salvation.

The order was short-lived but influential, attracting Symbolist artists, writers, and musicians who shared Péladan's vision of re-enchanting a "decadent" modern society through occult symbolism.

Organizing the Salons de la Rose + Croix (1892–1897)As official events of his new order, Péladan curated six annual exhibitions in Paris (and one in Brussels) that functioned as initiatory gatherings for the occult elite. These "Salons" showcased over 200 works by Symbolist artists like Jean Delville, Carlos Schwabe, and Fernand Khnopff, blending painting, music, poetry, and ritual to promote Péladan's doctrines.

They were explicitly framed as a"religion of modern art,"with Péladan as high priest—complete with manifestos banning realism, nudes, and landscapes in favor of mystical, androgynous, and hieratic themes. Attendance drew hundreds, influencing the broader Symbolist movement and even composers like Erik Satie.

precursor of Surrealism and Modern Art of the 20th c.

>>23952403

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Just another riff on 'P' nothing definitive claimed.

Noticed the numerology of the "Istar" book. 1888

Here's an excerpt from the "The Supreme Vice"

It's gives a flavor. They hate ordinary people- Like Strzok, which fits perfectly with Marxist Doctrine - Hating the Middle Class, getting the lower uneducated classes to back the dictatorship of the 'Proles' many times out of strict envy, which is played upon.

Ironically, it's the Aristos behind this: playing classes against each other, (technique was used by early Christians promoting the faith among the slave class, who held resentment toward the roman overlords - Or so I read a Yale scholar to that effect.)

The narrator is speaking of the evil people at his dinner party..

fumier" means pile of shit,

"…in life as a drama critic, neither laughs nor cries,would not take a single step to prevent a crime, and would commit a good deed only if it did not inconvenience him. It is he who would leap if virtue took Paris: he is thestern luminary of decadent fumier;he cares only for eviland does nothing about it. Tisselin, a Robespierre monarchist capable of putting his theory into practice (i.e. murderous for politcs); Rudenty, the méridional en dedans,who would set fire to the State in order to reign over its ruins. Erlon, a Cadénet painter: with extenuating circumstances, the lours of Rops. Talagrand, that blond dreamer hanging beauties of the first order between an inept and a turbid one; see, he has put on his neck, as the last link of his mistress, a poisonous one.

^it's a put-down about the mistresses he chooses "he cannot resist adding grotesque or lethal “specimens” to prove how far beyond normal morality he has gone

Saint-Meen, the macabre of Aphroditism: a sadist, he wrote an apology for rape in thirteen songs. Pouancé, except for putting nitrogen in conversation,is capable of anything. Beauville, an atheist — that says it all. Gadagne, the gentlest of sceptics, rare metaphysician. Ligneuil, author of Métier étranges.

a collection of grotesque or perverse short stories about people who practice bizarre, immoral, or occult “trades” (think poisoner-for-hire, professional seducer of nuns, embalmer of beautiful corpses, etc.).

very, very strange (and probably satanic) jobs.

There's supposedly some very interesting passages in these books. Confluence of occultism, Art, High Society and likely secret orgs who perform rituals.

Artwork modern inspired by "Istar" book

picrel

https://peladan.substack.com/p/the-oelohites-and-the-legend-of-incest

[] If I had one oI avenge myself for it with neologisms.”

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>>23952403

Here it is: Why Peladan "P." ? connects with the "Minerva" Owl transfemale Cult, which one can logically posit.

Péladan’s obsession with androgyny is the absolute core of his entire system — religious, magical, aesthetic, and erotic. For him, it is not a side issue or a decadent fetish; it is the key to the lost primordial Tradition and the only hope for humanity’s salvation.Here is his doctrine in his own terms (drawn from Comment on devient Mage, the prologues to Istar and La Vertu suprême, and the Salon manifestos):

**The Original Divine State

The first human (Adam Kadmon in Kabbalah, the Rebis in alchemy) was androgynous — simultaneously male and female, containing both polarities in perfect equilibrium.

This androgyne was made “in the image of God,” and God Himself is androgynous (Péladan constantly quotes Genesis 1:27: “male and female created He them”).

2.The Fall = Separation of the Sexes

The biblical Fall was not about an apple; it was the violent separation of the two principles into man and woman.

Ever since, humanity has been incomplete, crippled, and doomed to desire what it can never truly rejoin.3.Magic and Salvation = Reintegration of the Androgyne

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3.Magic and Salvation = Reintegration of the Androgyne

The entire purpose of initiation, art, and love, according to Péladan, is to reconstitute the androgyne within oneself. The Mage must become spiritually androgynous (intellectually solar/male + intuitively lunar/female).

The Artist must paint androgynous figures (neither masculine men nor feminine women, but ideal beings with delicate bones, long hair, ambiguous bodies — think Jean Delville’s paintings for the Salons).

Sexual love, if it is to be anything more than animal coupling, must be an androgynous communion in which the lovers momentarily abolish their separation and glimpse the primordial unity.

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4.Why Androgyny is the Mark of the Initiate (according to this occult leader)

Every true initiate is recognizable because he (or she) no longer belongs entirely to one sex. Christ on the cross is androgynous (wounded side = vulva symbol, long hair, delicate features).

The angels are androgynous.

The great mages of legend (Hermes Trismegistus, Merlin, Christian Rosenkreuz) are always depicted as sexually ambiguous.

Therefore the modern mage must cultivate the same ambiguity: long hair, soft voice, refined gestures, rejection of beard and muscle.

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>>23952481

for Péladan androgyny = the visible sign of initiation completed.

The more androgynous a person or a work of art appears, the closer it is to the lost divine state and the farther from modern decadence.That is why he keeps hammering the point in every book and every Salon catalogue: the salvation of civilization will come through the return of the Sacred Androgyne.