>>24328621

>Every burst used by these weapons would cost about 5 dollars in electricity!

>Endless rounds!

I saw that too, it is coming online soon. Why not both? Think about Iran, launching drones from tunnels. They open the doors, pull out, fire, and then go back into bunkers. Descend drones could manage that better than an energy weapon with limited range, also without frying the electronics of friendlies. We have a huge advantage in air superiority, why not use it to our advantage. Without the energy requirements to launch a drone from the ground, we can make them dirt cheap if launched from a C130. They energy to maintain altitude and payload capacity would reduce requirements exponentially. With the right avionics, game controllers and players, you could loiter a huge area, and playout all waiting games due our air superiority.

Reports of Chinese plane tickets to evacuate from Iran, rises to the equivalent of $560k US Dollars. That is a big error.

>>24328644

Agreed. An excellent defense. I am sure the growlers have something close, at least jamming if not frying wise.

>>24328644

Also, I did a post about getting those 16 inch guns online from battleships, and having them shoot sand gathered from the ocean floor as cheap ammo. If they can shoot a shell the weight of a small Volkswagen, 26 miles, sand should not be a problem with the right ordinance to create a shield of protection from drones and could probably reach 50 miles out. Just a thought.

>>24328669

>>24328670

>>24328671

Actually, when I posted on the board that shotguns with pellets would be an effective defense against drones for soldiers, Russia was the first to adopt this as a tactic and it is highly affective. So a bigger shotgun could basically protect an entire fleet from thousands of drones and swarms for minimum of 25 miles out if not 50 to a 100 miles out due to the reduced weight of the ordinance by millions of times lighter. I am always right. YesIf.

>>24328677

>Would wear out the barrel liners with a quickness

Now you are thinking. If salt or abrasion is the problem then washing it first, putting it in a burst round, or adding some type of chemical like teflon, might do the trick. YesIf means yes it is doable, if the right criteria is meet. We do not give no's.

>>24328704

>how do you propose getting an Iowa-class battleship on station?

There are supposedly 8 battleships that could be put online with a little work and a few billion dollars, from what I gathered. Trump wanted to get them back online because they are just rotting away and those old ships have hulls that are around 16 inches of pure steel if not more. They do not need to travel fast, get good mileage, and can take a lot of good punches before they would ever sink as opposed to the faster aluminum ships. They would just need to be place mile up front protecting a fleet from drone swarms as the more sophisticated missile destroyers handle the hypersonic and ballistic missiles.

>>24328704

>16" shells have a variable time fuse that can turn the regular HE shell into a bursting charge.

So, for a swarm of 3k incoming drones, that would be very effective and you wouldn't need explosives either, even plastic pellets coming out of a 16 inch gun could take out close to 500 drones per shot, and most battleships have 6 16 inch guns.

>>24328723

I would bet a howitzer could also be reconfigured to deal with drones as a big shot gun too, or something based upon the same principle, if you could make it lighter and more maneuverable. The shotgun effect. shooting cheap plastic pellets, spraying large areas. This could also drastically reduce collateral damage.

>>24328728

The point, is the shotgun affect and 16 inch guns. I would rather see, a dozen USS legend cutters fitted with one 16 inch gun that can shoot plastic or some type of bio-degradable ammo, to deal with drone swarms against Navy assets then just one big heavy dog. I would take dispersion, count, cost effectiveness, and speed over big monoliths.

>>24328747

Correct. We need to hit that sweet spot for sure because most threats we have solutions for, but the drone threat, is not truly solved. What is the right size of gun and weapon verse the criteria of what is coming at you, needs to be resolved, and automated for the most part.

>>24328747

We have to defend from single drones for boots and swarms of thousands of drones used as denial and overwhelming defenses. Howitzer or M50 sized for battlefield, A12 shotgunner in a small team, 16 inch guns to defend a fleet from 500+ drone swarms.

>>24328773

If we lost an F15E in Kuwait, it has to be because it was doing drone operations and somehow friendly or not so friendly fire mistaked it as the enemy. An F15E should not be doing drone operations, in reality. I know they have air burst rockets designed for it, but it does not seem the proper tactic. It would have to fly slower and lower, making it more vulnerable, and it is not cost effective. We really should have something more like a smaller, lighter, fast, unmanned attack drone, something configured like the design of a fast osprey, that can shoot shotgun rounds. Something that can be up +12-24 hour shifts, and fast enough to intercept any propellered drone.

>>24328794

>osprey

The osprey design would be perfect because it can hover to defend an area, then convert for faster travel. The F15E in 2020 cost is about $138 million dollars. You could probably make well over 100 osprey unmanned drones for every one F15E. With the ability to hover, you could protect a much larger area as opposed to the F15 monolithic solution.

>>24328785

>US Military Just Tested a Microwave Weapon That Instantly Zapped an Entire Swarm of Drones Out of the Sky

Yes, I am aware of that, and that it is coming. But we need all solutions at our disposal. Energy weapons can also have collateral damage too, in sensitive areas like cities, or other friendlies in the theater of operation just as a gun would. Both solutions have their pluses and drawbacks, and it would be best to have all solutions. Radar would pick up that energy faster than a shotgun solution for example. Overall, I think cheap unmanned Osprey solutions in various sizes with shotgun or microwave capabilities should be the most effective due to maneuverability, cost effectiveness, hoverability, the ability to land and be stationary, and the vast dispersion factor would be the best bet.

>>24328839

> Overall, I think cheap unmanned Osprey solutions in various sizes with shotgun or microwave capabilities should be the most effective due to maneuverability, cost effectiveness, hoverability, the ability to land and be stationary, and the vast dispersion factor would be the best bet.

US Military:

I have come to a conclusion. Build this asap. Think about it. If you can build a smaller Osprey type of unmanned drone for about $1 million a pop that could engaged whether in flight, hovering, or stationary, would give our personnel in all divisions, the advantage that they need. To hold position, loiter, defend, and attack. Being unmanned, the nose could hold multiple types of directed weapon at various angles of attack without jeopardizing lives. I think 500 of those networked and deployed vs 5 F15Es would give us a dispersion factor that a single solutions could not match, Marines could use something like this too. 100 hold positions on the ground, as 100 hover, covering and discovering, as new stationary positions are acquired, and as the full flight use the speed to suppress. Many new types of orchestrations could be utilized. I think most loses now a days are coming from cheap one way drones. We need to use our fighter for air superiority and against hardened targets, which is what they were designed for. Once air superiority is achieved, this would be the best solution.

>>24328875

>POTUS knows what he is doing.

I wish I could say more, but I cannot divulge, but I have no doubts that President Trump is doing the right thing and handling something much bigger than most, even here, realize.

>>24328877

The next leader has already been named:

Ayatollah, Inowana Be Yoleader…

>>24328916

Yes, oil from Venezuela was a safeguard but we now produce the most oil in the world due to finally being allowed to drill. Even bigger, It was Congress and bribery that stopped us from drilling all along.

>>24328919

>TRUMP HAS BEEN RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING"!!!

Correct, but a good portion comes from us too, more than most realize.

>>24328955

>humility gives us power, and anonymity.

Power comes from the mind and I have 17 machete slashes on my front tree. Our power is coming from our collective. We bump and set, and Trump spikes, plus he does his own bump, set, and spikes through formal channels. That is a winning combination.

>>24328964

>which also kept the US dollar tied to the corrupt petrodollar as well I suspect. Making our economy totally dependent on this foreign resource. OPEC right?

Bingo. Here is the game. Wall street is owned by the Saudis and the Jews, which control all credit cards too. Main street is mainly owned by the Jews and Mafia. So when oil prices go up ,due to controlling a valve, that causes everything else to go up in price, which does two things for the cabal. Once prices are raised, such as food, the prices do not come down respectively when oil goes down, causing inflation. They own most of Main street too, such as grocers. When consumer cannot make ends meet, they start to charge on their credit cards, which creates big profits for Wall street banksters. It is a win win for the cabal everytime prices change up or down.

>>24328964

>>24329013

This is the bigger picture and the biggest scam in American history.

>>24329031

>Secretary Hegseth:

So here is the big question. Why did Obama want Iran to have nuclear weapon?

>>24329051

> Iran was a puppet govt for globalists

Now answer this:

>>24329053