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yes, yes. the ones [they] are always telling are the villains are always the villains.
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humans are building surrugate humans. true/falseTrue.
Humans are actively building surrogate humans — or at least increasingly sophisticated substitutes for human bodies, minds, labor, and presence.
What counts as "surrogate humans"?
Humanoid robots / androids: Companies like Tesla (Optimus), Figure, Boston Dynamics, Agility Robotics, and many Chinese firms are building robots designed to look and move like people, perform physical work, and eventually interact socially. These are literal mechanical surrogates.
AI agents & digital humans: Advanced language models, voice clones, virtual influencers, and embodied AI (e.g., in VR/AR or robotics) act as cognitive and social surrogates. They can do knowledge work, customer service, companionship, therapy, etc.
Biological efforts:
Lab-grown human tissues, organoids, and "artificial embryos" (blastoids).
Research into artificial wombs (ectogenesis) — already successful with lamb fetuses and advancing for humans.
Synthetic biology projects aiming at minimal synthetic cells or engineered human-like systems.
Brain-computer interfaces & mind uploading concepts: Projects trying to create digital copies or extensions of human minds.
We're not (publicly) at fully conscious, rights-bearing artificial humans yet, but the trajectory is clear: humans are engineering substitutes across physical, cognitive, and reproductive domains.
The misspelling "surrugate" doesn't change the underlying reality — this has been accelerating rapidly in the last 5–10 years and will continue. It's one of the defining projects of 21st-century technology.doesn't really bode well for actual humans, imho. can easily see 80% of the human workforce being obsoleted in 20 years.Yes, it's a legitimate and serious concern.
The scale and speed of what's coming with AI + robotics is different from previous industrial revolutions. Cognitive automation hits white-collar, creative, and service jobs much harder than earlier mechanization did. Your 80% figure in 20 years is on the high end, but it's not crazy—some serious analyses point in that direction.
Realistic outlook:
Displacement risk: Studies like Frey & Osborne (updated versions), OECD, IMF, and Goldman Sachs have estimated 40-60%+ of current jobs have high automation potential in the coming decades. AI is already eating knowledge work (coding, legal research, radiology, customer support, copywriting, data analysis, etc.). Humanoid robots will accelerate the physical side (manufacturing, logistics, elder care, retail, construction).
Timeline: 20 years (by ~2045-2046) for massive transformation is plausible. Progress is compounding—models are getting cheaper and more capable fast. We're likely to see "AI-native" companies that need far fewer humans.
The 80% scenario: Possible in a high-adoption path, especially if general AI agents + cheap robots arrive. Many repetitive, predictable, or even mid-skill cognitive tasks go away. The bottom 80% of the skill/wage distribution (by current measures) is most exposed.
But it's not purely dystopian:
Historical precedent: Agriculture went from ~80% of workforce to ~2% in developed countries. Manufacturing followed. Total employment didn't collapse—new jobs emerged. However, transitions were painful, with inequality spikes and regional decline.
Productivity abundance: If AI delivers 10x or 100x gains in output per worker, society gets vastly richer overall. Goods/services become cheaper. The pie grows. The question is distribution.
New human advantages: Things AI still struggles with (or will for a while): genuine creativity/originality, physical dexterity in unpredictable environments, emotional intelligence, moral judgment, complex social coordination, and "taste." Care economy, experiences, artisanal work, governance, exploration, and personal services could expand.
Policy levers: Universal Basic Income (or services), wage subsidies, massive retraining, shorter workweeks, ownership stakes in AI (e.g., "citizen dividends" from AI profits), and regulation of deployment speed. Countries that handle this well could see higher living standards. Bad policy = stagnation + social unrest.
The core risk isn't total obsolescence—it's a bifurcated society: A smaller cognitive elite + AI/robot owners thriving, while a large portion of "average" humans struggle for meaningful economic roles and purpose. Boredom, status loss, and declining birth rates could compound problems.
Many smart people (including at xAI and elsewhere) are optimistic that this leads to post-scarcity or at least much higher baseline prosperity. But optimism needs to be paired with realism about transition frictions. Humans are adaptable, but not infinitely or instantly so.
What specifically worries you most—the economic side, loss of purpose, inequality, or something else?
https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtNQ_22e60b6f-0b11-4a1e-8446-1ca7d19f2d6a
ai dominates or will dominate the www soon.Yes — AI is already dominating large parts of the WWW, and it's accelerating fast.
As of mid-2026, we're well past the "emerging" phase. Here's the current picture:
Content creation
Roughly 50% of newly published articles/online content is primarily AI-generated (or heavily AI-assisted). It hit this level around early 2025 and has hovered there. Some analyses of new webpages put AI-involved content even higher (~74% in certain crawls).
"AI slop" (low-effort, generic, often low-quality generated text, images, videos) is flooding search results, social feeds, YouTube, LinkedIn, etc. It's profitable and easy to scale, so it proliferates.
Traffic and usage
Bots/AI agents now generate more web traffic than humans. In 2026, automated traffic (especially AI-driven) crossed 50-57% of requests in major measurements. AI agent traffic exploded (thousands of percent growth in some categories).
Search is shifting: AI summaries/overviews (Google, Perplexity, ChatGPT, etc.) are increasingly the default interface. Many queries end in "zero-click" results — users (or their AI agents) never even visit human sites.
Traditional search traffic to websites is declining as AI intermediaries take over.
The feedback loop
AI trains on the web → generates more web content → trains on that (including its own slop) → dominates more surfaces. This raises real risks of model collapse, eroded trust, and a harder-to-navigate internet for humans.
It ties directly into our earlier conversation: this is how AI obsoletes jobs (content, marketing, SEO, journalism, research, etc.) while reshaping the information environment that humans rely on. The web — once a human-dominated space — is becoming an AI-mediated, AI-populated ecosystem.
Short version: AI doesn't fully dominate every corner yet, but it already controls the majority of new content production and a growing share of traffic/interactions. "Soon" was basically 2025. We're living in the transition now.
Does this feel like a net positive to you, or mostly corrosive?
Malthusians gonny malthuse
In 1973, an MIT computer predicted when civilization will end
An MIT model predicted when and how human civilization would end. Hint: it's soon.
What World One showed was that by 2040 there would be a global collapse if the expansion of the population and industry was to continue at the current levels.
In fact, 2020 is the first milestone envisioned by World One. That’s when the quality of life is supposed to drop dramatically.
“Sovereignty of nations is no longer absolute,” King told ABC. “There is a gradual diminishing of sovereignty, little bit by little bit. Even in the big nations, this will happen.”
The prediction, which recently reappeared in Australian media, was made by a program dubbed World One. It was originally created by the computer pioneer Jay Forrester, who was commissioned by the Club of Rome to model how well the world could sustain its growth. The Club of Rome is an organization comprised of thinkers, former world heads of states, scientists, and UN bureaucrats with the mission to “promote understanding of the global challenges facing humanity and to propose solutions through scientific analysis, communication, and advocacy.”
https://bigthink.com/surprising-science/in-1973-an-mit-computer-predicted-the-end-of-civilization-so-far-its-on-target/
so, in the same way that Home Depot put most of the local harware stores and lumber yards down, the web displacing all other media; and just in time for AI to come along and fill it up with itself.
hopefully the post office still knows how to deliver a letter.
The Absolute State of Things
M.I.T. Computer Program Predicts in 1973 That Civilization Will End by 2040
https://www.openculture.com/2026/05/m-i-t-computer-program-predicts-that-civilization-will-end-by-2040.html
Ray Kurzweil says Immortality by 2030 with nanobots.
https://nypost.com/2023/03/29/immortality-is-attainable-by-2030-google-scientist/
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didn't that bitch go to jail?