said look you have to be really really
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careful about this because you know
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there's real sex issues with Kemp and
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there's been a lot of rumors about Kemp
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being bisexual and I said you know Jim
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that's old news you know nobody cares he
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said no no it's not that it's much much
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worse oh boy I was trying to be light
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and funny and I said you're trying to
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persuade me campus having sex with sheep
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he did it's much much worse and he said
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this is really serious you have to be
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careful and I knew what he was referring
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to her you know but he yeah make him say
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and he didn't make me say it I went
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uh-oh you know this is really bad
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fascinating so yeah that story is up on
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the website I finally you know sort of
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disgorge I didn't put it in the in the
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cam tapes but I finally discouraged that
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story and I have to say Solari comm is
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just a treasure trove of finding out
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about deep history well here's the
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supposedly the Franklin cover-up came in
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on the Republican side what with
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delivering money to call right Wow good
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point
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and Cuomo shows up later in your story
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too but you know what I always wanted to
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know is when did space and the idea of
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like the kind of black budget and space
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come into the work and the way that you
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were looking at things the first the
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first time I started to notice space
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when I first got to HUD every time the
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Space Station would get in trouble they
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claw money out of the HUD budget you
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know so there seemed to be the
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relationship between space
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hood that was how does that make sense
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yeah well they were both in there's a if
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you look at the appropriation basket
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they were in a creation basket together