Know it yourself. A mind to a pattern with memory is your soul arising from your body specifically in the region of the brain, that must be accompanied by your living organism and you cannot detach yourself from yourself without psychedelic drugs giving you the illusion, so they may alter your mind, but would have to make you a zombie to eliminate it with medicine. Are (you)? Steiner was a bit of dark occultist as a “we” and more than a little off with many of his ideas. There is only one living spirit that may dwell and deceive the unprotected, in a variety of ways and forms causing their unusual phenomenon and experiences in a variety of ways.