>>25114380 lb

This is how I see it:

Trump threw Epstein off all his properties around 2007 /08

Before that they were both in attendance at various parties. Trump was a "man about town" celebrity in NYC. Epstein targeted such people.

So the many photos pushed by the haters of them standing together at parties, or for a photoop, mean nothing. It's pure Propaganda for those on a low info diet.

Trump, as a celebrity, took pictures with many people. Part of his job creating his brand as a noted host (hotelier)

Trump went to the police about Jeffrey, after the first time Epstein was arrested. And Epstein and Ghislaine were taken into custody and charged under Trump's watch.

Trump never went to the infamous island, but hitch-hiked a few times on Epsteins's aircraft, which is played up by those intent upon destroying Trump.

People who actually read through the Epstein docs find out Jeffrey despised Trump and tried to figure out ways to take him down; Epstein and his sordid friends both are alligned against DJT.

Why does Trump call the Epstein issue a hoax?

Since they blame Trump, and the vast majority of Epstein associates and blackmail targets are Democrat?

The minds of the haters were prepped to see Trump as the villain even when facts pointed different.

Another layer to the "hoax" idea:

Trump had a "fight" with Elon. Trump was known in the past, part of his work as an actor for WWWrestling, was to stage fights for entertainment. 'kafabe' The audience thought the fights were real.

So he an Elon had a "fight" right when Elon's business and Elon, personally, were being targeted by violence and Trump haters.

As the "fight" climaxed Musk accused Trump of being in the Epstein files.

1 .. This immediately caused an uproar with haters demanding the files be opened.

(which is an outcome Trump likely desired)

So the "hoax" is his hoax.

('The best lie is the truth' in some game theory)

He tells you to your face but doesn't give the context.

And the premises and assumptions of the audience do their own work.

2 Shows that Trump is mentioned in those files thousands of times (which is what is quoted by the Propaganda Fake News)

However the reason his name is in there so many times is not because he had an email relationship with Epstein; But it's because Trump lives inside the head of all these crooks and they couldn't stop plotting, thinking, and posting around his name.

Dont want to get too deep here, but Epstein was a sadist,, and a lot of what's there is too gross to unredact for the public, (so they say - I can t even easily post it here); sorta like they kept back the complete photos of Abu Graib?

Certainly if Trump was "in on it" the material showing that he was, would've absolutely have been released earlier. As it is, all they have is insinuation, which is how the Propaganda works.

I mean Clinton was dating Ghislaine, but somehow Clinton is brought up much in the context of Epstein. It ruins the flimsy narrative of Trump, red man bad.

The people (usually insane woman liberals?) calling him "pedo" are complete morans, ignoramus.

>>25114616

('The best lie is the truth' in some game theory)

He tells you to your face but you miss the context.

I once won some parlor game where everyone was trying to figure out who the "wolf" was (when I was the "wolf") I sed "I am the Wolf";

Nobody believed it

"Wouldn't say that, if was the wolf"

True story, It did work.

The game was called "The village"

People outsmart themselves sometimes. "smart and one half"

kekek

>>25114683

yes, assange (if that's even the OG who returned) hate Trump

>>25114729

Jew Haters never give up

keke

>>25114729

Dude is a tube baby

Used the Genius Uncle sperm.

Hates Trump.

Bred by the Anne H.-Byrne cult of Australia

Byrne bred and sold babies / children.

She was very close with government

And according to tween whistleblower 'sold the boys'

Assange's step dad was involved with the cult

No records of Julian attending school (the Hamilton Byrne children were hidden and avoided school both in N. America and in Oz)

Julian attended a special school, likely connected with super soldiers, which taught advanced math to gifted.

>>25114777

He only met his supposed real Dad when he was a teenager

>>25114634

kek

>>25114862

>>25114441

tyb

>>25114890

Seems some chinese and other astronomical records were falsified; in order to align with the distortion of official historical chronology.

Humboldt presents Chinese astronomy as an independent, very old observational tradition. He discusses the eclipse in the Shujing, later dynastic eclipse lists, Chinese star groups, and the calendar as genuine material for the history of the sky, on the same footing as Greek and Babylonian records.

He was writing in the 1840s–50s from European sinology of his day, so some details are outdated, but the premise is acceptance of the Chinese date.

"acceptance" vs. verification

Fomenko’s position With Gleb Nosovskiy is at odds with this interpretation. Fomenko devoted a volume of History: Fiction or Science? to this issue pdfrel, "The Issue with Chinese Astronomy" (2017 in English)

Pre-fifteenth-century Chinese reports tied to Halley’s Comet are, in their words, “utter disinformation,” fabricated in the eighteenth or nineteenth century.

Chinese history before the fifteenth century is not an independent record. They argue the Jesuits in the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries transplanted Roman and Byzantine chronicles onto China. They also contend that paper, printing, gunpowder, and astronomy were not Chinese inventions of remote antiquity.

These allegedly accurate Chinese, Mesopotamian and Byzantine astronomical data are key to the historical falsification.

As with the Trump haters lie saying "Trump is pedo", "close with Epstein", the info presented is cherry-picked and any data which opposes, is ignored.

Key astronomical computer number crunching and details of eclipse saros cycles supports the fact of chronological falsification.

But the supporters of the official story cling to the allegedly verified data from "ancient" civilizations to fortify their contention, official chronology.

https://dn710003.ca.archive.org/0/items/21-the-issue-with-chinese-astronomy-history-fiction-or-science-book-21/21-The%20Issue%20with%20Chinese%20Astronomy%20-History-Fiction%20or%20Science%20Book%2021.pdf

https://dn760104.eu.archive.org/0/items/history-fiction-of-science-chronology-5/History%20Fiction%20of%20Science%20chronology%205.pdf

from this study the control of NASA by the Freemason and the falsification of the publicly noted Moon Landing makes more sense.(once one takes into consideration the falsification of astronomical data historically/ official chronology

There apparently are different versions. or Improved Versions of Grok. And when it's a new version it has to learn everything over again? Certainly comes with guard rails.