Anonymous ID: 0d47a5 Oct. 11, 2026, 3:04 p.m. No.25131153   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>25131074

that's how pinochet escaped back to Peru; And mocked his opposition by standing up out of the wheelchair once he returned.

Brit Judge let him go.

Tortured and killed thousands

 

Rettig Report (National Commission for Truth and Reconciliation, 1991): Focused on deaths and disappearances. It documented about 2,279 people killed or disappeared for political reasons (roughly 1,068 confirmed killed and 957 disappeared after arrest, plus related cases of political violence). Later updates and related work raised the commonly cited total for killed or disappeared to around 3,200.

Valech Report (National Commission on Political Imprisonment and Torture, 2004, with 2011 update): Focused on political imprisonment and torture. It recognized 27,255 people as direct victims of torture. Overall, it identified about 38,000 political prisoners, the large majority of whom were tortured. The 2011 update certified nearly 9,800 additional torture cases (and a small number of further deaths/disappearances).

 

Che Guvarra iconic death photo staged?

Anonymous ID: 0d47a5 Oct. 11, 2026, 3:41 p.m. No.25131218   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1288

>>25131193

>Can any anon recommend a good documentary about the Templers?

 

The Timeline – World History Documentaries channel has several popular, well-produced full-length docs on the topic. Good starting points include:

 

Knights Templar: The Rise and Fall Of A Medieval Empire

Knights Templar: The Hidden History Of The Warrior Monks | Knights Templar: Rise & Fall

 

These cover the founding in the early 12th century (protecting pilgrims in the Holy Land), their rise as elite warrior-monks and financial innovators, their role in the Crusades, the dramatic downfall under King Philip IV of France (including the Friday the 13th arrests in 1307), and the lasting legends. They’re engaging, free to watch, and among the most-viewed options.

Note: Timeline’s pieces (and many others) mix solid history with the myths and mysteries that have always surrounded the Templars (Holy Grail, lost treasure, secret survival, etc.). That’s part of the appeal for most viewers,

 

Stronger historical option: The Secret Story of the Knights Templar (2021 mini-series)

This French-produced 3-episode series (IMDb ~6.9) is frequently recommended in “best of” lists. It follows the order from its beginnings as a unique military-religious brotherhood, through its military and banking power, to its suppression. It features historians (including authors like Sean Martin) and aims to separate newer historical research from the abundant mythology. Runtime is around 2.5 hours total. Availability varies by region and can be limited on major U.S. streamers—check JustWatch, Plex, or similar, or look for rental options.

 

These are the ones that treat the Templars as keepers of suppressed truths and ongoing mystery rather than a straightforward medieval military order. Your friend should enjoy them more than the drier academic-style histories.

 

Mysteries of the Knights Templar (Gaia series)

Hosted by Timothy Hogan (who presents as a modern Templar Grand Master) and Scott Wolter (known from America Unearthed and related alternative-history work).

It covers:

 

Templar connections to Atlantis and prediluvian knowledge

Escape routes and presence in pre-Columbian Americas

Alchemy, gnostic influences, and esoteric rites

Holy Grail legends

Survival after the Friday the 13th suppression and migration westward

The idea of an enduring secret order guarding ancient wisdom

 

This is pure alternative-history/esoteric territory—exactly the kind of material that appeals to people interested in secret societies, hidden bloodlines, suppressed history, and ongoing covert influence. It’s available on Gaia (often with a free trial) and sometimes via the Gaia Amazon Channel

 

Timeline’s Knights Templar: The Hidden History Of The Warrior Monks

Available free on YouTube. It explicitly explores links to the Holy Grail, the Ark of the Covenant, the bloodline of Jesus Christ, Merovingian connections, and “secrets older than the Templars themselves.” Very much in the Holy Blood and the Holy Grail / Da Vinci Code vein that overlaps with a lot of modern conspiracy storytelling.

 

History Channel’s America’s Book of Secrets episodes on the Templar roots of the Freemasons (secret society continuity, hidden influence).

Anonymous ID: 0d47a5 Oct. 11, 2026, 3:55 p.m. No.25131236   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1253 >>1263

>>25131221

I noticed the beast at the foot of the tree here, resembles a parasite.

It was a vision of Carl Jung out of his Red Book

It's supposed to show a stage of renewal, salvation? Based on a story in Norse Mythology

 

called “The Way of the Cross.”

 

He came from a strong line of clergy.

 

The fire comes out of Muspilli and grasps the tree of life. A cycle is completed, but it is the cycle within the world egg. A strange God, the unnameable God of the solitary, is incubating it. New creatures form from the smoke and ashes.”

 

"the process of transformation around the cross/tree."

 

Muspilli (also spelled Muspelheim or Muspell) is a realm from Norse mythology.

It is the domain of fire, home of the fire giants (the Muspilli), ruled by the fire giant Surtr. In the myths, Muspilli is the fiery counterpart to Niflheim (the realm of ice and mist). At Ragnarök, the end of the world, Surtr and the fire giants emerge from Muspilli and set the world ablaze, burning the world tree Yggdrasil and the earth itself.

 

The tree doesn't look like it's burning to me

 

You’re right—the tree in the painting doesn’t look literally on fire.

Jung’s inscription is symbolic, not a literal description of the image. In the language of The Red Book (and in his later psychology), “fire” often stands for a transformative, numinous, or destructive-creative force rather than visible flames. The phrase “the fire comes out of Muspilli and grasps the tree of life” is his own interpretive gloss on the completed painting: the fiery principle of Muspilli (the Norse realm of fire and world-ending conflagration) is imagined as seizing or working upon the tree/axis mundi, completing a cycle inside the “world egg.”

What you actually see—the central star/flower, the blue rings, the rooted tree, the animals, the checkered ground—is the visual expression of that process, not a scene of a burning tree. The fire is in the meaning he attached to it, not painted as orange flames.

 

Could be the fire of knowledge; awakening? Doesn't actually burn the Tree of Life?

 

transformation, death, and renewal.

Anonymous ID: 0d47a5 Oct. 11, 2026, 4:01 p.m. No.25131253   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>25131236

Jung apparently conceived God as a tremendous mystery.

 

“Mysterium tremendum” (more fully, mysterium tremendum et fascinans) is the classic term for that idea.

It was coined by the German theologian Rudolf Otto in his 1917 book Das Heilige (The Idea of the Holy). Otto used it to describe the core of religious experience—the encounter with the holy or numinous as an overwhelming, awe-inspiring mystery that both terrifies (tremendum) and fascinates or attracts (fascinans). It is something “wholly other,” beyond rational comprehension, that seizes the person rather than being produced by the will.

Jung was deeply influenced by Otto and frequently adopted this language. He treated the experience of the divine (or the God-image / the Self) as essentially numinous: an autonomous, overpowering, mysterious force that can overwhelm the ego. In his psychology, direct contact with archetypal contents or the unconscious often has this quality of the mysterium tremendum—a tremendous mystery that cannot be controlled or fully grasped, only related to with care and respect.

So while Jung did not invent the phrase, it accurately names the kind of experience of God as a tremendous, ineffable mystery that he described and that runs through The Red Book and his later writings.

 

German Lutheran theologian.

He was raised in a pious Lutheran family, studied theology (including a dissertation on Martin Luther’s understanding of the Holy Spirit), and spent his career as a professor of systematic theology at universities including Marburg. He remained a Lutheran Christian throughout his life and understood his work as rooted in Christian theology, even as he developed a broader, comparative approach to religion and the experience of the holy.

Anonymous ID: 0d47a5 Oct. 11, 2026, 5:26 p.m. No.25131397   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1401 >>1420 >>1462 >>1490

>>25131263

What if Jerusalem actually was Constananople?

 

Carl Jung experienced vision and was drawn to the Middle Ages. Turns out one of his ancestors was Latin Emperor of Constantinople

 

And connected to France.

I'm wondering if the Crusades were actually Templar Knights moving West out of the Holy Land, Bosphorus region and into Europe; not vis versa.

What do you think?

Anonymous ID: 0d47a5 Oct. 11, 2026, 5:26 p.m. No.25131401   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1420

>>25131397

Origins: The Fourth Crusade and the Sack of 1204

Pope Innocent III launched the Fourth Crusade with the goal of recovering Jerusalem. Instead, a combination of Venetian financial pressure (the crusaders owed Venice for ships), internal Byzantine politics, and opportunity diverted it to Constantinople.

Anonymous ID: 0d47a5 Oct. 11, 2026, 5:40 p.m. No.25131442   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1465

>>25131420

>>25131422

Yes — they sacked the city.

In April 1204 the forces of the Fourth Crusade (mainly French, Flemish, and Venetian) first assaulted and broke through the sea walls of Constantinople. Once inside, they subjected the city to a three-day sack: widespread looting, destruction of buildings and artworks, violence against the population, and the stripping of churches (including Hagia Sophia).

This was not a limited military occupation or a brief raid. Contemporary accounts — both Latin (such as Villehardouin) and Byzantine (especially Niketas Choniates) — describe large-scale plunder of palaces, churches, and private homes, with relics, gold, silver, and artworks carried off to the West. After the sack, the crusaders installed their own emperor (Baldwin of Flanders) and established the Latin Empire of Constantinople.

So the sequence was:

 

Diversion of the crusade to Constantinople.

Assault and breach of the walls (April 1204).

Three-day sack of the city.

Creation of the Latin Empire on its ruins.

 

That’s the core of what happened. The sack is one of the most notorious events of the Crusades and is universally accepted by historians.

>>25131422

 

I'm thinking along other lines

Anonymous ID: 0d47a5 Oct. 11, 2026, 5:55 p.m. No.25131490   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1516

>>25131397

Anatoly Fomenko’s New Chronology treats the 1204 sack of Constantinople as a real medieval event, but relocates and reinterprets it as part of a much shorter overall timeline and as the historical core of the “Trojan War.”

Fomenko (with Gleb Nosovsky) argues that conventional chronology is radically inflated. Most events traditionally placed in antiquity are, in his view, medieval duplicates shifted backward by roughly 330, 1,050, or more years. Written history effectively begins around the 9th–11th centuries, and the bulk of what we know happened between roughly 1000 and 1600.

Key identifications that shape his view of 1204

 

Constantinople = biblical Jerusalem = Troy (Homer’s Troy). The city is the central stage for many of the most important events in his reconstruction.

Jesus Christ = the Byzantine emperor Andronikos I Komnenos (executed in Constantinople in 1185). The Gospel story is a reflection of Andronikos’s career and death.

Hagia Sophia = the biblical Temple of Solomon. (Solomon himself is identified with the Ottoman sultan Suleiman the Magnificent.)

The Crusades, especially the Fourth Crusade and the sack of Constantinople in 1204, are equated with (or are the original of) the Trojan War. Homer’s epic is treated as a later literary reflection of 13th-century events around the city, not a Bronze Age conflict.

 

How the 1204 events fit

In Fomenko’s framework, the Fourth Crusade’s capture and sack of Constantinople (and the subsequent creation of the Latin Empire, lasting until the Nicaean recovery in 1261) are genuine historical events that occurred in the early 13th century. They form part of the broader “Trojan War” complex that followed the death of Andronikos-Christ. The division of the empire into Latin and Nicaean (and other) parts is seen as a real political fragmentation of the earlier unified “empire,” later reflected in multiple phantom copies scattered through “ancient” and early medieval history.

The sack itself is not denied; it is simply placed inside a compressed chronology in which it is no longer an isolated disaster that fatally weakened Byzantium, but one chapter in a larger medieval struggle centered on Constantinople/Troy/Jerusalem. Later Western and Byzantine sources that treat Troy or Jerusalem as distant ancient places are, in his view, the result of deliberate or accidental chronological shifts and geographic misplacements.

Important context

 

>>25131464

I just see history in a totally different; pretty much counting on falsification as the rule.

Anonymous ID: 0d47a5 Oct. 11, 2026, 6:06 p.m. No.25131516   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>25131490

had to adjust it.

Hard to get everything in one picture.

I know the English Royals took the lineage before Henry 1 from the Byzantium Kings. It's a mirror