Wrong question.
The question is: does anything we perceive really exist in the manner in which we perceive it.
And the answer is No.
Every level of material existence is a gateway to a subordinate level; simpler, but more and more mysterious.
All attempts to define anything in concrete terms are defeated by the seemingly infinite regress into which physical reality lures the one that seeks to understand.
Thus, even the baker girls are not objectively real.
Sadly.
Advanced physics can no longer sustain the material, deterministic universe that most people believe in and which our “controllers” want us to accept as ultimate reality.
Spiritual people are aware that consciousness plays a very notable role in reality. But we are not yet agreed as to “whose” consciousness turns the ephemeral into what is manifested to our senses.
It’s weird. And I too have experienced many strange things that I cannot begin to describe articulately.
But knowing that nothing is as it seems is the beginning of true understanding. Or so we must hope.
I only shared it. I never gave it away.
Who cares about the schmatterlog?
I’ve been using qest.us/qcatalog since the last breakdown and it’s never failed to deliver the freshest loaf.
Many thanks and much appreciation to the fren that crafted the code.