>>2668888

>>2668922

Try looking it up if you don't know the history, anon.

>>2669139

>>2669191

Carter was 23 when he died and I don't believe they torture their own, anon.

>>2669283

Oh, yes, they do kill their own, but it's as a sacrifice. Haven't ever read of them being tortured.

>>2669324

>>2669332

Not true of the very high elites. It's all about $$$$. The Vanderbilts pay their way.