Anonymous ID: 1a47b7 Aug. 22, 2018, 1:04 a.m. No.2699809   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9923 >>9936 >>0249 >>0397

I'm not a law fag, so hoping one will chime in.

 

I'm very confused by the Cause and Effect Q post, why these things were strung together. The Executive Order declares a national emergency as per IEEPA allowing sanctions of foreign entities - which are named in the order. I’m not sure why these specific entities were singled out; i.e., stealing kidneys is bad, but there are worse actors murdering for organs in India. Also, this EO affects no US civilians or companies.

 

The amendment to Sec. 12. of the UMJC deals with civilians attached to military actions in the theater of war- not to civilians in the US. The US Constitution is very clear on the rights of citizens with regard to habeus corpus, and trial of US citizens with a jury of peers, etc. The only time Courts Martial and/or application of UMJC to civilians would be if martial law were enacted and courts were suspended.

 

Only congress can enact martial law, except in very limited circumstances. So, what if anything does this have to do with US civilians, even those who are involved in human rights violations (trafficking) or corruption? The US courts remain functioning.

Anonymous ID: 1a47b7 Aug. 22, 2018, 1:48 a.m. No.2699979   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>2699936

Correct. 39 entities have been attached. More may be in the future, but for now, they are not. And this EO is to provide sanctions, specifically blocking financial and real assets (as per IEEPA).

 

It has nothing to do with martial law or courts martial.

Anonymous ID: 1a47b7 Aug. 22, 2018, 1:55 a.m. No.2700004   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0242

>>2699964

And a declaration of war?

 

And treason is the only crime specifically defined in the constitution and is only applicable during war time.

 

Treason is a word that is thrown around a lot lately. Until/unless it refers to an act committed during wartime, it doesn't exist.

 

Civilian criminals per the constitution are tried in US courts of law under US statutes.

 

You see my confusion?

Anonymous ID: 1a47b7 Aug. 22, 2018, 2:12 a.m. No.2700063   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0078

>>2699993

Well I guess that was Hussein's rationale for suiciding a 16 year old civilian living in Yemen. But I'm thinking our Trump is more of an actual rule of law kind of guy. Unless circumstances change, gonna have to stay stumped on this one. I can't see current circumstances justifying the use of military courts or courts martial for civilian criminals, even ones that are enriching themselves on child trafficking or any of the other fucked up shit and corruption they are involved in. I can't see any reason to suspend the courts legally nation-wide, or anything else that seems to be implied by Q's cause and effect post. I just find the whole thing disheartenly misleading, and I'll just have to deal with that.