Go nutz
https://jsc.defense.gov/Portals/99/Documents/ANNEX1.pdf?ver=2017-07-19-103116-403
It was closed door
Snopes says
"As both Barack Obama and his wife, Michelle, have noted many times, they paid for their educations via scholarships and student loans, in the process (like many people) incurring debts which were not fully paid off until many years later. (In the Obamas’ case, it was largely the revenue derived from Barack’s pair of best-selling books that finally allowed them to retire their student loan debts.)"