Anonymous ID: 279dd3 Sept. 1, 2018, 4:15 p.m. No.2838586   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8634

>>2838461

Packet radio is very low bandwidth.

 

Packet-Radio-Modulation

With Packet-Radio, two modulation methods are common: FSK and AFSK.

AFSK (Audio Frequency Shift Keying) with 1200 baud (bit/s)

a audio tone is shifted in frequency, e.g. from 1200 to 2200 Hz and transmitted with a standard FM-radio. Advantage: very simple connection by using the microphone and speaker connector of every radio. Disadvantage: the data rate is lower as the channel capability.

FSK (Frequency Shift Keying) with 9600 baud (bit/s) or faster

The frequency of the RF carrier is directly shifted. This requires a direct access to the modulator of the FM-radio transmitter. The receiver signal has to be tapped directly at the demodulator / FM-discriminator. Some radios with too narrow IF-filters need to be modified before use with FSK. Advantage: much higher transmission rate compared to AFSK. 9600 baud data rate is the maximum reasonable speed which can be used with a standard FM radio channel.

Different Baudrates

300 Baud AFSK / FSK, Packet-Radio on short wave

With Packet-Radio on short wave (HF), 300 baud FSK is common. The simplest way is to modulate a SSB-transmitter with a AFSK signal with 200 Hz shift. Which frequencies are actually used makes no difference if the difference is 200 Hz. Packet-Radio does not distinguish between 'Mark' and 'Space', i.e. it makes no difference if the frequencies are swapped.

1200 Baud AFSK, the standard on VHF and UHF

The transmission speed with Packet-Radio is normally 1200 baud = 1200 bit/sec., this means approx. 150 characters per second. The mode is AFSK, that means one of two audio tones is applied to the microphone input of a common FM radio. Amateur radio uses normally the Bell 202 standard with tone frequencies 1200 and 2200 Hz. Just make a suited cable between radio and packet-radio-controller, which connects the signals 'mikrophone', 'loudspeaker', 'PTT' and ground.

1200 baud technique is widespread ad is used with most digipeaters. For data transmission with CB-radios (FM), 1200 baud AFSK is the optimum.

9600 baud G3RUH FSK, growing mode for fast Packet-Radio

As data traffic constantly grows, more and more nodes move to faster transmission on the user access frequencies. New digipeaters skip the slow 1200 baud mode and use 9600 from beginning. In Germany (2000), 50% of the user access frequencies use 9600 baud, i.e. 80% of the total data uses the 8-fold speed.

The FSK modulation standard was defined by James Miller, G3RUH. It can be adapted for various radios and gives a maximum yield of speed for a given channel bandwidth.

9600 baud: developed for satellite communication first

 

19200 Baud G3RUH FSK, somewhat expensive but fast

 

With this speed, the RF bandwidth is about 50 kHz, this is the double of the normal (20/25kHz) channel spacing. The IF filters of standard transceivers are too narrow to let such wide signasl pass without distortion. So, a user speed of 19200 baud did not succeed. For linking two digipeaters on a dedicated frequency, 19200 is often used (with special transceivers). 19200 baud can be decoded using the 1980's TNC2 concept, but the Z80 processor of these packet radio controllers is at its limits with 19200 baud data rate.

38400 baud, 76800 baud, 153600 baud, 307200 baud G3RUH FSK, for experiments, fast links and satellite download

 

To connect the nodes of a radio net, high speed is necessary. The new satellites (launched in 2000) use 38400 baud or faster to downlink their picture data. SYMEK offers special equipment for reception and transmission of very high data rates and the matching high-speed packet-radio controllers (TNC3). TNC2 controllers with Z80 microprocessor cannot decode or transmit data so fast. The only radio with data capabilities of over 19200 baud up to 153kbaud is the SYMEK TRX4S.

up to 1 Mbaud, for special high-speed Packet-Radio applications

 

With special radio transceivers thers speeds can be realised. In most cases, those very high speed links use frequencies above 1,2 GHz. Amateur radio is a playground for experimenters. Since 1998, fullduplex packet radio links with 1,220 kbit/s (1.2 Mbaud) are operative using TNC3S and inexpensive 10 GHz microwave radio links.

 

For distance they need HF and the bandwidth is very considerably limited.

For local comms 2m FM more bandwidth is available but it's distance limited, no ionospheric propagation.

 

Like I said before, any commercial use of ham radio is prohibited by the FCC regs.

 

Do you remember what 9600 bps internet was like? I do. You wouldn't like it.

Anonymous ID: 279dd3 Sept. 1, 2018, 4:26 p.m. No.2838737   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>2838634

Let's do the math to make it perfectly clear.

A typical internet connection these days is 1.5 megabits per second (Mbps). Or faster.

19,200 bps is less than 1% of the speed that folks are used to.

You would have to wait 100 times as long for each transmission.

Chatty internet protocols that send dozens of HTTP get requests and require all kinds of ancillary files like CSS stylesheets and fonts etc. do not work well over long-latency, limited bandwidth, data transmission layers.

They would not be able to transmit very many images, and only limited text.

 

But LIKE I SAID, any commercial use of ham radio is prohibited by FCC regulations.