Anons…
Looks at this.
Binney and Drake had a speech at the Chaos Computer Club 2012 in Hamburg/Germany.
Titel:
29C3 Panel: Jesselyn Radack, Thomas Drake, William Binney on whistleblowing and surveillance
Enemies of the State: What Happens When Telling the Truth about Secret US Government Power Becomes a Crime
Blowing the Whistle on Spying, Lying & Illegalities in the Digital Era
Panel presented at 29C3 (29th Chaos Communication Congress), 27 December 2012. Speakers are Jesselyn Radack, Thomas Drake, and William Binney. Q&A afterward is not included in this video.
And… ok… how do i say it… look at the labeling of the lectern…
2(9)C-3
2+9+3(C)+3=17
My brain hurts now.