Anonymous ID: 2f737b Sept. 17, 2018, 2:35 p.m. No.3061310   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1407 >>1415

>>3060953

Look…there is NO SIN called "Blaspheming the Holy Spirit (and it is NOT a Ghost either by the way. It is a "Spirit" and became "Ghost" when King James decided to dilute its meaning even more).

 

How do you even do this sin? Say things like "I hate you Holy Spirit". Is that how you blaspheme the HS? Cuss it out? How does one blaspheme the HS?

 

As we read in the bible, even in the NT not OT…

 

1Jn 3:4  Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 

 

If there was no Law in effect no one alive would be a sinner and thus Jesus died for nothing! So we are under some parts of the Law except the parts concerning the Levite Priests. Since Jesus became our priest those Laws are moot (Hebrews 4-10.

 

Jesus spoke in metaphors. To blaspheme the Holy Spirit means to go against your own inner intuition. Go against your gut feel. Not listening to your heart in exchange for mental reasoning.

 

I can go on, but that is good for now.

 

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Anonymous ID: 2f737b Sept. 17, 2018, 2:41 p.m. No.3061417   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1492

>>3061141

Paul taught EXACTLY what Jesus taught. Neither Paul nor Jesus taught "Christianity" (which was not invented until 300 years after both of them died).

 

What Paul taught was the written Law and he quit the oral law (Phariseeism). As Paul himself said…

 

Act 24:14  But this I confess unto thee… believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets: 

 

Notice he says "Written in the Law".

 

The problem people have with Paul is that they do not understand he is talking about 2 DIFFERENT sets of law. But you see the word Law and think it is Torah law. It is not.

 

How can these verses not be in contradiction?…

 

Rom 2:13  For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. 

 

and this…

 

Gal 3:11  But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. 

 

Are you justified by the law or not? Galatians is talking about Jewish oral law not called the Talmud. Romans is Torah law.

 

All you Paul bashers out there do not "get Paul". He and Yashua taught the same thing - the written law of Torah. Not the rituals of Judaism.

 

When you see Jesus talking about love in Matthew 5-7, explaining adultery, explaining murder, etc. THAT IS TORAH Law he is teaching not Christianity.

 

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Anonymous ID: 2f737b Sept. 17, 2018, 2:44 p.m. No.3061471   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1508

>>3061407

Whether I believe in God or the HS has nothing to do with my works and my salvation. Quit playing mental masturbation games. You and people like you are happy with that train of thought that seems to make you "Special" and condemns anyone not like you! You will be judged by actions and works and words not by what you imagine.

 

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Anonymous ID: 2f737b Sept. 17, 2018, 2:47 p.m. No.3061535   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1630

>>3061415

The Holy Spirit is exactly what he says he is A HOLY SPIRIT. In Hebrew that is called the Ruach Ha-Kodesh. He is not called Elohim, Yahweh, or any reference to God by the way. He is a spirit.

 

And he is not me. I also have a spirit that makes me me. I am not nor anyone inhabited by the HS. He is one entity. He grieves, he teaches, etc.

 

As we read…

 

Psa 104:4  Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire: 

 

The Holy Spirit is God's angel. And in the OT we see this mentioned as "THE angel of God not "an" angel of God.

 

The HS communicates to us through our gut. When we do not listen we usually sin. That is what Jesus meant in a nutshell.

 

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Anonymous ID: 2f737b Sept. 17, 2018, 2:50 p.m. No.3061592   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1644 >>1785 >>8486

>>3061508

I hate to see how you Christians, following your religion of Pagan lawlessness, enjoy condemning people like you try to do here. You are living a mental delusion and do not know the bible.

 

You are experts at Christian DOGMA.

 

I am out for now so as not to waste anymore of the BO's space with you folks. As Jesus said…

 

Mat 16:27  For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. 

 

Now you read this and pay it no mind still thinking that the one who imagines Jesus the hardest wins the prize. While you do not keep the sabbath, eat unclean meats, etc etc.

Anonymous ID: 2f737b Sept. 22, 2018, 8:12 a.m. No.3138282   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8302 >>9830 >>4008

>>3137540

Several things…..

 

Simply put if Jesus saves everyone then what do we need a moral system for? Why have right and wrong? Why did we need Laws? Use common sense. In reading deeper into scripture you will find all men are judged, some to everlasting life (not eternal for only God is eternal) and some to everlasting death. God tells us he takes no pleasure in condemning man.

 

Also, NO ONE has been saved. That is Christian dogmatic bunk they teach you. Read Hebrews 11 (NT). It lists all kinds of patriarchs and none of them have received the promise. They are dead in the grave until they come out of the grave into resurrection. Even king David is not in heaven (Acts 2:34) yet you think you are saved because you have an imagination of Jesus in your brain? Really.

 

You are what is called "CALLED". You have a calling, an interest, a desire. That is not "Saved". And if your works do not match your faith/calling then you will not be what Paul calls "justified" as faith without works is meaningless.

 

And Jesus in displaying the Law did not make it moot at his death. The word fulfill in Greek does not mean to moot. Fulfill means to display. But he himself had to do the Law and at his death he fulfilled the very last Law he had to encounter - at death. We read this here…

 

Deu 21:22  And if a man have committed a sin worthy of death, and he be to be put to death, and thou hang him on a tree: 

Deu 21:23  His body shall not remain all night upon the tree, but thou shalt in any wise bury him that day;

 

So when Jesus said "It is finished" he meant his requirement to show us a human soul can do all the Law was done. He fulfilled the last law at death.

 

To think you have no understanding of the Law, yet you claim to follow Jesus, does not make any sense. Christians use the word "LAW" and "SIN" and have no clue what these words means, what they do, what breaking them means, etc. It is just words to you people as your preachers have lied to you as bad if not more than the Jewish Rabbis have lied to their flock. And to break the Law means you are living in a constant state of sin.

 

The knowledge of good and evil, which man obtains by going into evil via his sins and turning his back on the Laws of God due to some religious writings that allows the follower faith without works, is far removed from the true likeness of God which he would have attained by avoiding sin as Jesus demonstrated.

 

The imaginary liberty of a sinner not studying works leads to the bondage of sin and ends in death. This is far from the true liberty of a life of fellowship with God which is obedience to the written (not oral) Word of God. There is no freedom called "living in sin in the name of Jesus”. Faith without works is meaningless and works comes from studying the Laws of God.

 

For if we were not to be under the terms of the law anymore, by extension we would not be guilty of sinning; therefore having no need of a Saviour from our nonexistent sins. Were this to be the case, then Jesus' death was a total waste of His time.

Anonymous ID: 2f737b Sept. 22, 2018, 8:14 a.m. No.3138302   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>3138282

One last thing….be careful when reading Paul in Romans 7 and Galatians 3. this is where people get tripped up as Paul is not talking about doing away with the Mosaic Law.

 

Paul talks about 2 sets of Laws - written and oral. As he says…

Act 24:14  But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets: 

 

Notice the term "written in the law" not oral.

 

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Anonymous ID: 2f737b Sept. 22, 2018, 12:26 p.m. No.3141128   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1434 >>9009 >>9021 >>4660

>>3139830

You sure like to make things up to suit your dogma. Here is what I read what Jesus said. Please read….

 

Mat 5:18  Truly I say to you, Until the heaven and the earth pass away, in no way shall one iota or one point pass away from the Law until all comes to pass. 

 

All has not come to pass. And here he says…

 

Joh 14:15  If you love Me, keep My commandments. 

 

You say you love him? Then do what he says.

 

The problem you have like many others is that you do not understand the 2 sets of Laws Paul is talking about. Jewish law and the Pharisees ARE NOT BIBLE SCHOLARS. They are experts in ORAL law not written law. The oral law is now codified as the Talmud. They were practicing Talmudic Judaism which Jesus called the customs and traditions of Elders.

 

Paul says to follow the WRITTEN LAW. As he says…

 

Act 24:14  But I confess this to you that according to the Way, which they say is a sect, so I worship the ancestral God believing all things according to that having been written in the Law and the Prophets, 

 

And as King David said…

 

Psa 119:44  And I shall keep Your Law continually, forever and ever. 

Psa 119:113 I hate the halfhearted; but I love Your Law. 

 

You are talking about the ORAL law when you say "NO ONE CAN KEEP all those laws".

 

I know you do not understand what I am telling you. And I write for the people VIEWING these posts not necessarily for you. I know people like you. You are following Chrisitanity and EXCLUDING the parts of the bible that do not fit what you want it to say. That is not the way it works.

 

You must live a righteous life and that is predicated by the Law. Jesus taught the written TORAH LAW. When Jesus taught people what you are seeing is Torah law in its most basic form not Christianity. but the Jews are not under Torah Law and what the Jews are doing is NOT Torah law.

 

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Anonymous ID: 2f737b Sept. 23, 2018, 8:39 a.m. No.3150787   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0817

>>3150145

>>3149021

Please understand…Paul is NOT talking about the Mosaic Law most of the time. The Law he is talking about is the Oral law.

 

You ARE under Law or you would not be a sinner. You are NOT under Jewish law. No one can do all the Jewish law. If there was a law that could give you righteousness they (the Jews) would have written it). Jesus nailed the Jewish law to the cross.

 

NOT MOSAIC LAW.

 

The law of sin is the Jewish law not the Law of Moses which is LOVE.

 

I absolutely HATE IT when people talk about Law and sin and have not studied the Law. Don't tell me "I have read it". BS.

 

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Anonymous ID: 2f737b Sept. 23, 2018, 8:42 a.m. No.3150805   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>4043 >>3970 >>4536 >>5840

>>3150145

Angels were not given the ability to procreate. They are not screwing humans.

 

Nephalim are famous, rich "big" men. Like Rockefellers. They simply took women.

 

And yes a giant flood flooded the entire earth. It had never rained on earth until that time by the way so an ark looked very out of place.

 

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Anonymous ID: 2f737b Sept. 24, 2018, 1:25 p.m. No.3168811   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>3245

>>3164008

Please read these points…

 

  1. Where do you tell me that what Jesus said about "Works" (keeping the Law) is not important due to your misunderstanding of Paul? What did Jesus say about works?…

 

Mat 16:27  For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. 

 

You will be judged by your works. And this…

 

Mat 12:36  But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. 

Mat 12:37  For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned. 

 

You will be judged by every word you have said and posted. And yet again after Jesus died…

 

Rev 22:12  And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 

 

You WILL be judged according to your works and you are not pre-approved becasue you follow some Pagan religion. And your religion cannot even agree on who Jesus is anyway. Do I follow the Mormon Jesus, the Jehovah Witness Jesus? or the Catholic Jesus? Christianity has been developed to DIVIDE and CONQUER you and lead you AWAY from the Word.

 

One problem is in Paul. When he says works of Law cannot help you he means JEWISH ORAL LAW. Not Torah. Ephesians 2:8-9 is NOT TORAH.

 

  1. Jesus told the thief on the stake he will be with him in Paradise. Have you looked up the Greek word for Paradise? It is NOT heaven. If Jesus said heaven he would have said heaven. Paradise, from paradiso (gr.) means "a future park like setting". This is the day of judgment is what he was telling him.

 

3, There is no biblical doctrine that says "once saved always saved". That is a Christian snake oil. The bible says opposite. You are judged daily.

 

You are espousing Christian dogma not the bible.

 

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Anonymous ID: 2f737b Sept. 24, 2018, 1:36 p.m. No.3168948   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7568 >>4717 >>8918

>>3164346

Jesus is not a Jew in the religious sense. He is a Jew in the fact he is of the lineage of Judah, which is 1 definition of the word "Jew". If he was a typical Jew there would have been no arguments with the Pharisees as he would have practice oral talmudic law. Do you understand the difference in oral and written Law?

 

He fulfilled the requirements he had to do. Fulfill does not mean to moot the law. And in Greek fulfill means to display. His actions displayed the Law. Almost all his encounters can be explained if you know the Law.

 

Jesus did not come as Messiah. He did not fulfill but about 40% of the requirements for Messiah. Did he bring Israel to greatness? Did he put down all wars? Did he beat weapons to plowhsears? did he come in the clouds? No. But he fulfilled parts of Messiah that requires humbling. At his 2nd coming he will fulfill the Messiah requirements 100%.

 

All are sinners and we are told to try not to. There is no grace to simply say "I am a sinner and there is nothing I can do about it". That is a Catholic defeatist attitude. We are to learn the Law and stop sinning.

 

Again, read my above post…you WILL be judged by your works and words. Sorry you refuse to believe Jesus' exact words. Again Matthew 16:27…

 

Mat 16:27  For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. 

 

Do you not understand what sin is or what it does? Are you telling me Jesus forgives people who steal? Jesus loves people who break the Sabbath? Jesus does not mind if you have sex with a dog? You do not understand what sin is, how it hurts you, your friends, your animals, and your relationship with God. You people should NOT TALK about sin and Law. You cannot confess your sins because you have never been taught or read or studied the Law. As we read in the NT 1John 3:4 Sin is breaking the Law. If the Law were not in effect you would not be a sinner.

 

Anyway, you are definitely astute in Christian DOGMA. Satan is proud of your post. "Sin all you want and simply call on Jesus". You people are biblically dangerous!

 

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Anonymous ID: 2f737b Sept. 26, 2018, 5:15 p.m. No.3199379   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>6290

>>3199090

Sorry, there is no one being punished in "hell" right now. That is not what hell means.

 

There were 4 words translated into the English word hell. Sheol Gehenna, Tartaroo, and Hades. None of them are a place of everlasting torment.

 

You are espousing Christian "dogma". And for some reason even if there was this place you feel you are good enough to not belong their yourself? How vain can we get? And If my image of Jesus is not your image I also get to go there too?

 

Can you see yourselves yet?

Anonymous ID: 2f737b Sept. 30, 2018, 5:01 p.m. No.3271025   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0734

>>3262313

That is NOT the message of Christ. That is the message of a religious dogma. You are espousing a dogma not the bible.

 

Jesus said many times beware the one who can kill your soul (him) in judgment. The gates are narrow. The soul that sins shall die. And on and on.

 

Jesus' message was to repent to enter the kingdom of heaven not to become a cheerleader.

 

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Anonymous ID: 2f737b Sept. 30, 2018, 5:06 p.m. No.3271097   🗄️.is 🔗kun

Okay……tonight I apologize to the BO and Q for my rant Friday. I guess I was a little verklempft after the week. Now that I have thought it out…

 

  1. The actor last week that should get the oscar was not the vally girl Ford. It is Kavanaugh. He delivered an oscar winning performance. He was the one who showed true emotion and captured our hearts - not what her name.

 

  1. This FBI "action item" had to be a plant. Who suggested it again? This is exactly what they DO NOT NEED to happen. They were baited and walked right into the trap.

 

  1. What is the FBI going to find out? Feinstein? Waters? Corruption? Is this the way it all gets started? The catalyst to expose these people while everyone is watching the show?

 

Bravo Q. My apologies for doubting.

Anonymous ID: 2f737b Oct. 3, 2018, 7:52 p.m. No.3322446   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>4180 >>7084

>>3313245

Nowhere in the bible is the concept of once saved always saved. that is Christian heresay dogma. Christ judges ALL by the way and you will be judged by your works not by your faith in Jesus Christ.

 

I posted the verses for you and the world to see. You can choose to ignore the as you have.

 

And you call me a Pharisee since I choose to post scripture? You do not understand what a Pharisee follows.

 

You are trying to make the word of God fit into your perception. You need to let the word of God PROVE a perception and of it does not then you must abandon your conditioning.

 

And I follow no religion and neither did Jesus.

 

I have learned from experience when I encounter someone like you that you are either (LISTEN UP FOLKS) a delusional dogmatic Christian that has been told lies for so long you cannot see the truth or…

 

A Jewish troll trying to sew false seeds and anger when the truth is written to throw people off.

 

I guess one day I will know. NOW GO BACK and read my posted scriptures 1 more time please.

 

Jesus died to take over the atonement of sin from the tribe of Levi to the tribe of Judah. That is how he "Takes the sins of the world". Not be erasing sin as you do them.

 

And lastly, I wish you people never used the word sin or Law since you have NO CLUE WHAT SIN IS and you never would know if you are sinning or not.

 

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Anonymous ID: 2f737b Oct. 3, 2018, 7:56 p.m. No.3322492   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>5609

>>3290734

Yes Jesus will kill your soul in the resurrection if you are not corrigible. that BIBLE is clear…

 

Eze 18:4  Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die. 

 

Eze 18:23  Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live? 

 

Mat_10:28  And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

 

Rev 20:15  And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. 

 

Many many more.

Anonymous ID: 2f737b Oct. 5, 2018, 1:24 p.m. No.3351746   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7304

>>3327225

Can I hear your definition of evil please?

 

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My background is irrelevant. The scriptures speak for themselves. I am sorry you have a need to put me in a box.

 

Jesus was on Judah. You do not understand the MANY definitions of the word Jew.

 

Again, listen up, Torah is LAW not legalism. Legalism is religion. Jesus read the Torah to them in their own synagogues thus pointing out their own system was incorrect and based on customs of men. And why do accept the term "synagogue" as credible anyway? Did the Levite priests have synagogues? Do I need a synagogue right now to teach you? Synagogues are used to promote Phariseeical tradition - just like a Christian church.

 

Holy Feats ARE OF GOD. Listen up - the Jews changed the Feasts: Passover is now a Seder, Fesat of Trumpets is now Rosh Hoshannah, Day of Atonement is now You Kippur. When these are changed the meanings and reasons for them are mooted.

 

Again he was of the tribe of Judah wish is 1 definition of a Jew.

 

Should I post Jesus words again? I guess I need to…

 

Mat 16:27  For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. 

 

Jesus sacrifice took away the PENALTY of sin, but not sin. Sin is rampant. But to go sacrifice and animal for your sins is not needed now. That is what changed. If sin was abolished then you would not be a sinner and thus there is no need for Jesus to be your high priest. The Christian mindset that says Jesus loves sinners, or there is no sin in Jesus, or all my sins are blotted out by Jesus, are the epitome of ignorance and you make the devil happy.

 

Christianity, Judaism, and other "isms" are man-made dogmas. God gave us LAW. You people atalka bout law and sin and have never studied EITHER OF THEM. yet you want to hear yourself talk because you have a public soapbox?

 

Don't tell me I am the deceiver. You folks have not studied the bible yet you may be an expert in your religions. I will pray for you on judgment day and don't tell me you are already judged (Jesus Christ - no pun intended).

Anonymous ID: 2f737b Oct. 10, 2018, 9:07 a.m. No.3424742   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1658

>>3401518

Look…..Jesus spoke in metaphors. Tares simply means "weeds" as compared to say "corn" (and not GMO corn either!). In other words you are of God or of Satan producing weeds. It is that simple.

 

The devil, satan, is NOT producing ANYTHING. Angels do not reproduce.

 

And you ramble with scriptures that are meaningless. When people ask a simple question give them a simple answer instead of a Christian sermon.

 

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Anonymous ID: 2f737b Oct. 10, 2018, 9:17 a.m. No.3424829   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8998 >>1542

>>3401578

Correct. Christians talk about sin, repentance, and other words that THEY HAVE NO CLUE what they mean biblically. Sin is just a word. And Jesus does NOT give these people a pass because they call themselves Christians (especially when almost all major Christian religions cannot even agree on who Jesus is by the way).

 

Sin is defined in the NEW testament explicitly.

 

1Jn 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

 

Sin is breaking the Mosaic Law - PERIOD. Now how can ANY Christian STOP doing sinful behavior if they NEVER study the Law? We hear preachers every Sunday (not Saturday – the true Sabbath) telling their flock “You are a sinner”. Do they ever tell these people how to not sin? Do they really think Jesus stamps out sins in real-time”. Well, if you study sin you realize this concept is a fairy tale. Sins are things that hurt people, yourself, your animal, your employee, your relationship with God, etc. They are physical problems.

 

Now if you are of the devil you sin. It you study what God said to do you are of God. Are we all perfect? No, but we must learn and try to get better. That is the message.

 

This is not a game based on "who imagines Jesus in their minds the hardest". This is about your behavior, your works, and how you behave in life's situations. In other words "WWJD" (what would Jesus do).

 

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Anonymous ID: 2f737b Oct. 10, 2018, 9:23 a.m. No.3424900   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0039

>>3397451

 

You are very misleading and picking a very cherry picked answer.

 

More On Lucifer/Satan

 

Ruler of this world (age): Jn 12:31; 14:31; 16:11

 

Joh 12:31 Now is the judgment of this world; now the ruler of this world shall be cast out.

 

Prince of the power of the air: Eph 2:2

 

Eph 2:2 in which you formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the ruler of the authority of the air, the spirit now working in the sons of disobedience,

 

The god of this world (age): 2 Cor 4:4

 

2Co 4:4 in whom the god of this age has blinded the thoughts of the unbelieving, so that the brightness of the gospel of the glory of Christ who is the image of God, should not dawn on them.

 

He promises the world to those who will obey him: Mt 4:8-9

 

Mat 4:8 Again the Devil takes Him to a very high mountain, and shows to Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory.

Mat 4:9 And he said to Him. I will give all these things to You if falling down, You will worship me.

 

He was/is a cherub angel who fell. He wanted to be God's #1 right hand guy and could not accept Jesus as his "boss".

 

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Anonymous ID: 2f737b Oct. 10, 2018, 9:10 p.m. No.3434308   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0433

>>3428998

The bible states clearly what sin is…

 

1Jn 3:4  Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 

 

The term "missing the mark" is a watered down deflection Christian preachers use to keep their people in the dark about sin. They will never ever teach you what sin is and they come up with stuff like "missing the mark" The mark of what" Who defines this mark?

 

We are separated from God BECAUSE of our sins, but we will not know our fate until the day of judgment.

 

Hell is just a word for the grave.

 

Some verses for you…

 

Mat 16:27  For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. 

 

By your works. Not by praying to Jesus And again…

 

Rev 22:12  And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 

 

Don't ever let a Christian tell you you are not blamed for your works (sins) just because you love Jesus Christ. It does not work that way. In fact if you truly loved him, as he says, this would be your position…

 

Joh 14:15  If ye love me, keep my commandments.  

Joh 14:21  He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. 

 

1 - PS (you hurt my feelings! :( Strok???

 

the "p" means prophet

Anonymous ID: 2f737b Oct. 11, 2018, 2:24 p.m. No.3442772   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>3221 >>0986

>>3440433

I have been told I have a "gift of discernment" when it comes to the bible. Could be because for the last 15 years I have studied the bible every day. When it hit me to study it I had never opened the book and I was in my 40s.

 

(nce you get passed the verses, religious dogma, you go deeper and then realize what Jesus was about - things like that. (He taught Torah Law not Christianity by the way. And that was why he argued with the Rabbis since they CHANGED Torah to customs. But anyway…)

 

Anyone can study and learn. I am not special. But what I find amazing is WHY I have the urge to do this. Why do I seek to know more about the scriptures than I even know now? What button came on the night I said, "Hey God, if there really is a God then would you show me"? And the next day something triggered and I started from there. That is what is special. As Jesus said "I give you the good bread that you will want".

 

(The Word became flesh. Eat his flesh? To eat his Words.)

 

Go figure.

 

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Anonymous ID: 2f737b Oct. 12, 2018, 9:29 a.m. No.3451984   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>2686 >>7099

>>3450039

Several things…

 

  1. I am not a Christian or a Jew by the way.

 

  1. I never said Satan was a "Holy" angel. The Holy Spirit is a holy angel. (Spirits in this sense are angels by definition and context as stated in psalm 104:4).

 

  1. When Jesus says "from the beginning" (satan) what beginning is he talking about? The beginning of the "bad"angels creation, the beginning of the earth, what beginning? In other words the angels were created with free will. Just as any inventor creates. Some creations are good some are bad or evil. Lucifer/Satan chose disobedience. But at 1 point, who knew what/when he was going to take that route? So I would assume he "became" bad. And as a cherub angel he sat around the throne of God. That is the responsibility of the cherub so he had a very high position. Those angels you see in Ezekiel and Rev 4 are cherub angels.

 

  1. When we are born we learn to be sinful by following what we are taught. We are not sinful UNTIL WE SIN! The elites of this world have setup a system of convenience that we are taught to use laden with sin. Debt instruments are sin. Pharmakia is sin. We have the nature to take the easy way out. But who teaches what sin is? And why are parents falling down giving their children over to others?

 

We must study what sin is to led a life in the direction Jesus wants us to follow. Have you read the 613 Laws of Torah? And if so have you compared them to the changes made by the Pharisees? For example Torah may say "Help the man if his ox falls into the ditch" whereas the talmud would say "Help the Jew when his ox falls in the ditch". A total re-write of the law so be careful. Judaism101 (site) is not your friend.

 

And we all hear preachers telling their flocks "stop sinning". But have they ever educated people as to what sin is? No. Why not? Who knows.

 

If we are taught as little children what sin is we can try to avoid it. We must have that knowledge or else it is all up to each person's interpretation and that is incorrect.

 

1Jn 3:4  Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 

 

And even if you learn the sins you are still going to fall and sin anyway sometime somewhere. And that sin will hurt someone or something.

 

There is no one more deceived than the person that thinks Jesus just loves sinners.

 

So we agree on many things. If you want to learn more about the sins there is an excellent website that explains the Mosaic Law and many other things. Scroll down on the right to the categories links…

 

www.scripturetalks.com

 

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Anonymous ID: 2f737b Oct. 12, 2018, 4:05 p.m. No.3456036   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>3452686

You still do not understand the problem with Jesus and the pharisees? Please re-read some of my posts and what these others are trying to tell you. By the time of Jesus and the Pharisees the Jews were not under Mosaic Law. If they were they would have known of his coming. So please do not say they knew scriptures back and forth. They knew their oral law back and forth which became the Talmud. The torah and Talmud are in opposition to each other. Until yo understand this Jesus and Paul will never be clear 100%.

 

As far as your other "Christian dogmatic threats" I assume you must be thinking about blaspheming the holy spirit?" Tell me, how does one blaspheme the HS and where in the bible do you show me he is God?

 

In the OT where was this Trinity? Did Israel, Moses, king David in the \psalms, Isaiah, anyone ever propose a trinity and the Holy Spirit being God? Please show me.

 

And please - shhhhhh - with the threats. We are here to learn.

Anonymous ID: 2f737b Oct. 12, 2018, 4:13 p.m. No.3456106   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>6146 >>5291

>>3453121

>>3451751

In the OT the Hebrew words El, and Elohim, are both translated into English as God. Now in the KJ 1611 bible when the underlying Hebrew word was El the English word is GOD. When the underlying Hebrew word was Elohim the English word is God. Note the CAPS.

 

What does this mean? In the beginning Elohim created the heavens and the earth. We also read in John 1:3, Collossians 1:16, Hebrews 1:10, that Jesus created the heavens and the earth. So if that is divine then Jesus is THE God in Gen 1:1. Elohim. In fact we do not see the word GOD or El until gen 14:18 in the bible.

 

What does this mean? Jesus is "Elohim in the OT folks. the Father is "El".

 

Now the reason I had to mention this is when Jesus was on the STAKE he cried out "My GOD my GOD why have you forsaken me? Now where did he get that from? It comes from psalm 22 verse 1 in the OT. David wrote those exact words 1,000 years before it happened. It was a prophecy! (Read psalm 22:1 and then skip to around 15 and see who this is talking about).

 

If Jesus is crying out My El my El then he is talking to the Father. If he cried out my Elohim my Elohim then he is talking to himself. Who do you think he is crying out to? El, not Elohim. So he is talking to the Father. The Hebrew word is El.

 

No matter what Eli Eli……is saying it is point to the Hebrew "El" or GOD or the Father GOD in psalm 22:1.

Anonymous ID: 2f737b Oct. 12, 2018, 4:16 p.m. No.3456146   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>3456106

I will post the Psalm 22:1 for you now…

 

Psa 22:1  My Ěl, My Ěl, why have You forsaken Me – Far from saving Me, far from the words of My groaning? 

 

and the other part of this psalm. this is Jesus…

 

Psa 22:14  I have been poured out like water, And all My bones have been spread apart; My heart has become like wax; It has melted in the midst of My inward parts. 

Psa 22:15  My strength is dried like a potsherd, And My tongue is cleaving to My jaws; And to the dust of death You are appointing Me. 

Psa 22:16  For dogs have surrounded Me; A crowd of evil ones have encircled Me, Piercing My hands and My feet.

Psa 22:17  I count all My bones. They look, they stare at Me. 

Psa 22:18  They divide My garments among them, And for My raiment they cast lots. 

 

and then what happened in the New Test?…

 

Mat 27:35  And they crucified him, and parted his garments, casting lots: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, They parted my garments among them, and upon my vesture did they cast lots. 

 

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Anonymous ID: 2f737b Oct. 14, 2018, 9:01 p.m. No.3481224   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1246 >>3646 >>7054 >>7306 >>8345 >>4299

>>3475402

>>3475154

 

Jesus taught the concept of resurrection, not reincarnation. In fact, He predicted His own resurrection early in His public ministry (John 2:19). And after Jesus resurrected from the dead, He appeared to some disciples and said, "Look at my hands and my feet. It is I myself! Touch me and see; a ghost does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have" (Luke 24:39). Jesus was resurrected in the same body that went into the tomb and even retained the scars and wounds in His hands, feet, and side from the crucifixion (John 20:28).

 

In addition to biblically refuting reincarnation, we must also point to some of the practical problems involved in the theory of reincarnation. For example, we must ask, Why does one get punished (via "bad karma") for something he or she cannot remember having done in a previous life? Moreover, if the purpose of karma is to rid humanity of its selfish desires (as reincarnationists say), then why has there not been a noticeable improvement in human nature after all the millennia of reincarnations on earth?

 

Also, if reincarnation and the law of karma are so beneficial on a practical level, as reincarnationists claim, then how do they explain the immense and ever-worsening social and economic problems - including widespread poverty, starvation, disease, and horrible suffering - where reincarnation has been systematically taught throughout its history?

 

Now, among the first inhabitants of the earth, Lucifer's first lie was "YE SHALL NOT SURELY DIE (Genesis 3:4)." And, this same LIE of the Devil has been used from Adam and Eve's day to our present time today. Here lies the origin of the foundation of the falsehood of immortal soul, reincarnation, all forms of Spiritualism, Astrology, Black Magic, Necromancy, Purgatory and Hell, the burning place of torment. The whole system of the Mystery of Iniquity is based on this lie of the Devil, "Life after Death." But the Bible is very clear: "THOU SHALT SURELY DIE." Genesis 2:16, 17. And this from Hebrews…

 

Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: (no other choices. We do not die and go to heaven, hell, or purgatory. Even Jesus said this…

 

Joh 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven (no one - we await resurrection. See 1 Cor 15).

 

The myths about "Life After Death" can be traced in the legends of Nimrod who became the great god of the Assyrians and Babylonians and is “Babylon” teaching. And this teaching is taught in the churches under the guise of Christianity which teaches life after death in its own doctrine contrary to the bible which says when you die you are not awake, not thinking, and awaiting judgment.

Anonymous ID: 2f737b Oct. 14, 2018, 9:04 p.m. No.3481246   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7194 >>5343

>>3481224

Couple this with what the scriptures say about death and you also see reincarnation is impossible. for example…

 

Psa 115:17

(GW) Those who are dead do not praise the LORD, nor do those who go into the silence of the grave.

 

(KJVA) The dead praise not the LORD, neither any that go down into silence.

 

Psa 146:3 Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.

Psa 146:4 His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.

 

Psalms 13:3 Consider and hear me, O LORD my God: lighten mine eyes, lest I sleep the sleep of death;

 

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Anonymous ID: 2f737b Oct. 14, 2018, 9:09 p.m. No.3481281   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>3609

>>3457099

You talk about sin and Law and do not have a clue what you are talking about. And by the way I am what is called a spiritual Israelite as Paul was (see Acts 24:14).

 

Now read very slowly please…

 

The knowledge of good and evil, which man obtains by going into evil via his sins and turning his back on the Laws of God due to some religious writings that allows the follower faith without works such as Christianity, is far removed from the true likeness of God which he would have attained by avoiding sin as Jesus demonstrated.

 

The imaginary liberty of a sinner not studying works or the Law leads to the bondage of sin and ends in death. This is far from the true liberty of a life of fellowship with God which is obedience to the written Word of God. There is no freedom called "living in sin in the name of Jesus”. Faith without works is meaningless and works comes from studying the Laws of God.

 

For if we were not to be under the terms of the law anymore, by extension we would not be guilty of sinning; therefore having no need of a Saviour from our nonexistent sins. Were this to be the case, then Jesus' death was a total waste of His time.

 

However be careful, there is a "works of law" Paul talks about which has to do with the rituals and customs of at that time Judaism. That is the works of law Paul says cannot help you and what confuses Christians (In Eph 2:8-9 - NOT Torah Law).

Anonymous ID: 2f737b Oct. 16, 2018, 8:51 p.m. No.3505284   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>3498345

You actually bring up a good point I want to "point out to you".

 

Notice the date of your Websters. I take what you posted as being very accurate! I use the 1828 Websters. Reincarnation is not in that one.

 

But my point is this…notice how the accuracy of what it is has been changed over time due to dogmas and "gossip". From it s definition to now meaning a constant re-birth of the soul, is a different meaning!

 

Look up the definition of fornication too. Back then it specifically states the UNLAWFUL sex (according to biblical law not man law). So if what you did was not opposed to the torah law it is not fornication. In the bible sex before marriage is NOT fornication, but religion calls it that now.

 

People are getting dumber by the generation.

 

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Anonymous ID: 2f737b Oct. 16, 2018, 8:55 p.m. No.3505343   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>5353

>>3497194

>>3481246

 

PLEASE READ. This may take 2 parts or 3…

 

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𝐑𝐄𝐒𝐔𝐑𝐑𝐄𝐂𝐓𝐈𝐎𝐍

 

𝐎𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 𝐨𝐟 𝐫𝐞𝐬𝐮𝐫𝐫𝐞𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐝𝐞𝐚𝐝 𝐢𝐧 𝐬𝐜𝐫𝐢𝐩𝐭𝐮𝐫𝐞

 

As we have read the term hell is a pit or grave, in death no one is alive or speaking, and no one dies and goes to heaven to be alive with God. So what is our promise? And why are religions not teaching the hard truth about the Scriptures. If the promise was to die and go to heaven you would think there would be scripture after scriptures supporting this concept. And as was shown Jesus said “No man has gone to heaven”. Why is this taught?

 

Upon further discussion we see the bible tells us over and over that all souls will be raised form the dead – or resurrected. Some will be resurrected to life and some back to everlasting death which is called the final death of the soul.

 

Some people, the very righteous, that lived by the Laws of God along with their faith, will be what Paul calls “justified” and raised in this first resurrection. All other humans that have lived will be judged in what the bible calls the Great Judgment 1,000 years after the first resurrection.

 

Our hope is to be in the 1st resurrection. Paul explains why we go through this process…

 

𝐏𝐚𝐮𝐥 𝐞𝐱𝐩𝐥𝐚𝐢𝐧𝐬 𝐫𝐞𝐬𝐮𝐫𝐫𝐞𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧

 

1Co 15:35 But someone will ask, "How do the dead come back to life? With what kind of body will they come back?"

1Co 15:36 You fool! The seed you plant doesn't come to life unless it dies first.

1Co 15:37 What you plant, whether it's wheat or something else, is only a seed. It doesn't have the form that the plant will have.

1Co 15:38 God gives the plant the form he wants it to have. Each kind of seed grows into its own form.

1Co 15:39 Not all flesh is the same. Humans have one kind of flesh, animals have another, birds have another, and fish have still another.

1Co 15:40 There are heavenly bodies and earthly bodies. Heavenly bodies don't all have the same splendor, neither do earthly bodies.

1Co 15:41 The sun has one kind of splendor, the moon has another kind of splendor, and the stars have still another kind of splendor. Even one star differs in splendor from another star.

1Co 15:42 That is how it will be when the dead come back to life. When the body is planted, it decays. When it comes back to life, it cannot decay.

1Co 15:43 When the body is planted, it doesn't have any splendor and is weak. When it comes back to life, it has splendor and is strong.

1Co 15:44 It is planted as a physical body. It comes back to life as a spiritual body. As there is a physical body, so there is also a spiritual body.

1Co 15:45 This is what Scripture says: "The first man, Adam, became a living being." The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.

 

1Co 15:46 The spiritual does not come first, but the physical and then the spiritual.

1Co 15:47 The first man was made from the dust of the earth. He came from the earth. The second man came from heaven.

1Co 15:48 The people on earth are like the man who was made from the dust of the earth. The people in heaven are like the man who came from heaven.

1Co 15:49 As we have worn the likeness of the man who was made from the dust of the earth, we will also wear the likeness of the man who came from heaven.

1Co 15:50 Brothers and sisters, this is what I mean: Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God. What decays cannot inherit what doesn't decay.

1Co 15:51 I'm telling you a mystery. Not all of us will die, but we will all be changed.

 

1Co 15:52 It will happen in an instant, in a split second at the sound of the last trumpet. Indeed, that trumpet will sound, and then the dead will come back to life. They will be changed so that they can live forever.

 

1Co 15:53 This body that decays must be changed into a body that cannot decay. This mortal body must be changed into a body that will live forever.

1Co 15:54 When this body that decays is changed into a body that cannot decay, and this mortal body is changed into a body that will live forever, then the teaching of Scripture will come true: "Death is turned into victory!

1Co 15:55 Death, where is your victory? Death, where is your sting?"

1Co 15:56 Sin gives death its sting, and God's standards give sin its power.

1Co 15:57 But thanks to Elohim who gives us the overcoming through our Master יהושע Messiah.

1Co 15:58 So, then, brothers and sisters, don't let anyone move you off the foundation of your faith. Always excel in the work you do for the Lord. You know that the hard work you do for the Lord is not pointless.

Anonymous ID: 2f737b Oct. 16, 2018, 8:56 p.m. No.3505353   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>5370

>>3505343

𝐖𝐡𝐞𝐧 𝐚𝐫𝐞 𝐰𝐞 𝐫𝐞𝐬𝐮𝐫𝐫𝐞𝐜𝐭𝐞𝐝

 

Paul tells us AFTER the return of the Messiah, at the sound of the LAST trumpet, those shall be raised. These last trumpets are at the END of Tribulation time also. This tells us there is no such thing as a “pre-Tribulation” or “mid-Tribulation” rapture. There is a 1 time movement of people to Jerusalem upon his 2nd coming…

 

1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

 

1Th 4:16 Because the Master Himself shall come down from heaven with a shout, with the voice of a chief messenger, and with the trumpet of Elohim, and the dead in Messiah shall rise first.

1Th 4:17 Then we who remain alive will be caught up together with them in the clouds to a meeting with the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord.

 

This is a 1 time transfiguration of people that are alive when the Messiah comes. Their bodies will be changed and they will never have experienced death.

 

𝐉𝐨𝐡𝐧 𝐝𝐞𝐬𝐜𝐫𝐢𝐛𝐞𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝟏𝐬𝐭 𝐫𝐞𝐬𝐮𝐫𝐫𝐞𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧

 

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection (this is the first time that people come back to life).

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

 

𝐃𝐚𝐧𝐢𝐞𝐥 𝐝𝐞𝐬𝐜𝐫𝐢𝐛𝐞𝐬 𝐭𝐫𝐢𝐛𝐮𝐥𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐫𝐞𝐬𝐮𝐫𝐫𝐞𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧

 

Dan 12:1 And at that time, Michael shall stand up, the great ruler who stands for the sons of your people. And there shall be a time of distress, such as has not been from the being of a nation until that time. And at that time, your people shall be delivered, everyone that shall be found written in the Book.

Dan 12:2 And many of those sleeping in the earth's dust shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to reproaches and to everlasting abhorrence.

 

𝐃𝐢𝐟𝐟𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐩𝐞𝐨𝐩𝐥𝐞 𝐫𝐞𝐬𝐮𝐫𝐫𝐞𝐜𝐭𝐞𝐝 𝐚𝐭 𝐝𝐢𝐟𝐟𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐭𝐢𝐦𝐞𝐬

 

Jesus resurrected first with a “glorified body”

Mat 28:5 But answering, the angel said to the women, You must not fear, for I know that you seek Jesus who has been crucified.

Mat 28:6 He is not here, for He was raised, as He said. Come, see the place where the Lord was lying.

 

Jesus is also called “the firstfruits”.

 

Two witnesses

Rev 11:11 And after three days and a half, a spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood on their feet. And great fear fell on the ones beholding them.

Rev 11:12 And they heard a great voice out of Heaven saying to them, Come up here. And they went up into the heaven in the cloud. And their enemies saw them.

 

2nd Resurrection

Rev 20:11 And I saw a great white throne and Him who was sitting on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away, and no place was found for them.

Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before the throne, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged from what was written in the books, according to their works.

Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, and death and the grave gave up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works.

Rev 20:14 And the death and the grave were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Rev 20:15 And if anyone was not found written in the Book of Life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

Anonymous ID: 2f737b Oct. 16, 2018, 8:57 p.m. No.3505370   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>3505353

Luke 14:14 And thou shalt be blessed; for they cannot recompense thee: for thou shalt be recompensed at the resurrection of the just. (KJV)

 

John 5:21 For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will. (KJV)

 

John 5:25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.

 

John 5:28 Do not marvel at this, for an hour is coming in which all those in the tombs will hear His voice.

John 5:29 And they will come out, the ones having done good into a resurrection of life; and the ones having practiced evil into a resurrection of judgment.

 

John 6:39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.

40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

 

John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. (KJV)

 

John 6:54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day. (KJV)

 

John 11:24 Martha said to Him, I know that he will rise again in the resurrection in the last day.

 

John 11:23 Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again.

24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.

25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: (KJV)

 

There are many more verses on this. Now that you see it and understand this it becomes clear.

Anonymous ID: 2f737b Oct. 18, 2018, 5:46 p.m. No.3525556   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>3507720

Let's re-examine something first…Abraham Isaac > Jacob (changes name to Israel) > 12 tribes > Judah > breaks down into "Jews".

 

About Abraham…

Eze 16:1  The LORD said: 

Eze 16:2  Ezekiel, son of man, remind the people of Jerusalem of their disgusting sins 

Eze 16:3  and tell them that I, the LORD God, am saying: Jerusalem, you were born in the country where Canaanites lived. Your father was an Amorite, and your mother was a Hittite. 

 

(We can talk all about these disgusting sins, but that is another topic).

 

ABRAHAM WAS AN AMORITE. He has nothing to do with Judaism. But for some reason all the Jews think he is the :"Father of Judaism". That is a lie.

 

What was special about Abraham? In the NT Paul says he was a man of faith. Is that all? No, as we read here…

 

Gen 26:5  Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws. 

 

Abraham obeyed God's Laws.

 

Now back to the question. There is no such thing in the bible as an Abrahamic religion. Judaism is a breakdown of the Torah LAWS morphed down into what Jesus called "customs and traditions of elders". Now full blown Talmudic influenced 100%.

 

So, there are no Abrahamic religions. We have Torah Law which morphed into Judaism, which a branch morphed into Catholicism, which branched into Lutheran, GReek Orth, RCC, and then they branches into gentile Christianity. None of these are "Abrahamic". And none of them were given by God.

 

The ONLY rules given by God were Torah Law. Sin is defined by Torah Law. Righteousness is defined by Torah Law.

 

Paul did not create a new religion either. There are so many myths out there it is ridiculous. You have been divided so many times most people are just floundering.

 

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Anonymous ID: 2f737b Oct. 18, 2018, 5:54 p.m. No.3525665   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>3523770

Because there are more than 1 Hebrew words for God. El and Elohim are 2. And they both mean God. Sometimes God used to be spelled GOD, when it was referring to the Father, and God, when it was referring to the Son. We see this here for example…

 

2Sa 7:25  And now, O LORD God, (and then)…

 

2Sa 7:28  And now, O Lord GOD, thou art that God,

 

LOOK CLOSELY at the spellings. 28 (Thou are THAT GOD). 2 Gods, the Father and the Son.

 

Also as Jesus said My GOD my GOD why have you forsaken me. Was he talking to himself if he is God? That quote was actually taken from Psalm 22:1 and in the Hebrew that word for GOD is El not Elohim. Which means Jesus was talking to the Father GOD not God.

 

How else do we know Jesus is Elohim (God)? Here is another way. In Gen 1:1 we read…

 

Gen 1:1  In the beginning Elohim created the heavens and the earth. 

Gen 1:2  And the earth came to be formless and empty, and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of Elohim was moving on the face of the waters.

Gen 1:3  And Elohim said, “Let light come to be,” and light came to be. 

 

In newer bibles the word Elohim has been HIDDEN to say God. So you think that is the Father God creating all this stuff right? But as the NT tells us…

 

Joh 1:3  All came to be through Him,a and without Him not even one came to be that came to be. (All came to be through Jesus. And)…

 

Col 1:16  For by him (Jesus) were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 

 

Many more quotes attributing Jesus to being the creator. Jesus is Elohim. Jesus is God. The Father is El, as in El Shaddai (God Almighty), the Father. Both are God/GOD.

 

Php 2:5  Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 

Php 2:6  Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 

 

Equal = equal.

 

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Anonymous ID: 2f737b Oct. 20, 2018, 11:01 a.m. No.3543553   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>3692 >>5809

>>3528189

It says they should be stoned to death. But before death on any thing there was always the choice of making atonement and sacrificing an animal right? But we do not have animal sacrifice anymore right?

 

HOWEVER, what makes me different than your Rabbi, or your Priest, or your Preacher, is that I am DOCUMENTED. If I profess something to you I can show you exactly why and where the verse is in the bible. So if I tell you something that you do not accept your choices are to ask me why I said that, go look it up for yourself, or I guess get mad and lash out which serves no constructive purpose does it?

 

So do you have a question?

 

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Anonymous ID: 2f737b Oct. 20, 2018, 3:04 p.m. No.3545876   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>5942 >>5999

>>3545809

Usually when I get posts like your on open forums like this my first thoughts are, "Who gets angry like this?" You are not the typical Christian. Who are you shilling for? You don't like what I have to say about Jesus about the Jews?

 

Quit attacking the messenger. Read the verses.

 

And one if my favorite scriptures is Paul in romans 7. He says "why do I do what I do not want to do". Am I any different shill? Did I say I never sin? I DID say I read the bible - do you?

 

Go attack someone else. Why here know what parts you want not said. Yes, the Jews killed Jesus.

Anonymous ID: 2f737b Oct. 20, 2018, 4:20 p.m. No.3546428   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>3546269

I was answering you on my cel phone okay? Fingers too big. So I was ashamed at the way it appeared and it was not "signed". I figured you would then jump on me for spelling badly too along with what ever else you wanted to call out.

 

Okay? Back to the bible please.

Anonymous ID: 2f737b Oct. 30, 2018, 9:16 p.m. No.3671889   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1934 >>0461

>>3637992

I can tell you how to proceed, but first…there is no 1 good bible. They are all "translations" and they all have an agenda.

 

the King James sought to change a Hebrew story into a Christian story. It changed words such as assembly to church, Holy Spirit to Ghost, Passover to Easter, and Messianite to Christian. However, in many other ways it is very accurate although Paul is hard to understand.

 

One way to see how the bible are different is the famous verse in Romans 13:1. Here the King James gets it correct…

 

The powers to obey are from God, not the mayor, or the governor, especially if these are evil people. Let's look at Romans 13:1. What does the King James say (KJ) and what do the newer "Christianized" bible say? This can be very misleading. Let's look at the King James 1st…

 

Romans 13:1

(KJV) Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

 

It is simply saying God is the highest authority. There is no power but of God. Now we see how the bible writers changed this in order to deceive us. It is terrible…

 

(CEV) Obey the rulers who have authority over you. Only God can give authority to anyone, and he puts these rulers in their places of power.

 

Really? And that is the Billy Graham endorsed bible too. Here is another one…

 

(GW) Every person should obey the government in power. No government would exist if it hadn't been established by God. The governments which exist have been put in place by God.

 

Did God place Hitler in power? And this…

 

(TS2009) Let every being be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from Elohim, and the authorities that exist are appointed by Elohim.

 

Again not true. And what does the word authority mean in the Greek? The Greek word can mean jurisdiction. THERE IS NO JURISDICTION BUT OF GOD!

 

So what do you do? If you want a hard backed bible get the King James/Bullinger bible. Bullinger's appendix and notes are second to no one. It is published by Kregel.

 

As far as other bibles DOWNLOAD for free the computer bible program from www.e-sword.net. He gives you the king James and you can download dozens of others. You can hit the "Compare" button and see how 1 verse is translated by all the different bibles. You will be amazed how differently 1 verse can be put into English.

 

Good luck.

 

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Anonymous ID: 2f737b Oct. 30, 2018, 9:22 p.m. No.3671934   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>3671889

By the way…with the e-sword program I use the King James bible (KJ), the easy to read Contemporary English bible (CEV) to read Paul, The Gods Word bible (GW) which is pretty good, a little more complex than CEV but not as complex as King James, the LITV bible which is very literal, the TS 2000 which is a Messianic translation that uses Hebrew words int eh correct spots such as Elohim for God, Yahweh for Lord, Etc. and lastly the Message bible as it is the best bible for Paul.

 

You can download all of them with E-sword. It also includes an 1828 Websters dictionary. That is important as newer dictionaries became dogmatic and were skewed by the church.

 

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Anonymous ID: 2f737b Whore is Israel Nov. 4, 2018, 7:31 a.m. No.3726611   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7306

>>3714659

The Whore of Babylon is Israel - technically NOT the Jews at that point in time. To understand WHY they are called this by God read Ezekiel chapter 16. It is a long read, but explains.

 

Remember however that the words fornication, adultery, etc. have meanings other than sexual connotation. They mean worshipping other gods.

 

Here are some verses from ch. 16…

 

Eze 16:20  "'You took your sons and daughters, who belonged to me, and you sacrificed them as food to idols. Wasn't your prostitution enough? 

 

Eze 16:25  You also built worship sites at the head of every street. You used your beauty to seduce people there. You offered your body to everyone who passed by. You increased your acts of prostitution. 

Eze 16:26  You had sex with your lustful neighbors, the Egyptians. You used your prostitution to make me angry. 

 

Eze 16:32  You are an adulterous wife who prefers strangers to her husband. 

 

And more. God is angry!