There is no reincarnation, and it is contrary to the scriptures: It is appointed once for a man to die, and then the judgment.
I think you missed the point of the woman dragged naked before Jesus caught in the act of adultery.
None of the accusers had clean hands; how can true justice be applied by people with dirty hands? We have a concept in our law called Unclean Hands; the courts do not serve justice on the word of people with unclean hands.
And then Jesus, the Judge of the Universe, did not condemn her, but forgave her, and told her to cut it out.
Forgiveness to a Christian comes from knowing what an ocean of forgiveness we received, and thus being able to trickle out forgiveness to those who have wronged us. Not others, us. And God gave the sword to the government for a reason.
Any enemy of mine, if they had perfect knowledge, would far prefer I take revenge upon them than leave it up to Jesus, who baptizes all either in spirit, or in fire.
No, it says that the Order of High Priest that Jesus is can be compared to the Order of High Priest that Melchizadek held.
We know nothing of Melchizadek's parentage, origins, lineage, or death. What we do know is that he was the King of Salem (later Jerusalem) whom Abraham gave a tithe to (paid homage to).
Jesus' origins is from everlasting to everlasting; he was not born into his priesthood, and it will never end. He himself is the basis upon which he is the High Priest; he merits it, and none other.
Jesus is greater than Melchizadek/Shem, and Melchizadek/Shem was greater than Abraham. After all, before any Levite was even born, Abraham bowed to Melchizadek, and then to the preincarnate Christ Jesus on his way to obliterate the plains of Shinar.
It's far simpler than this. The magnetic field of the earth is dying. The poles are not reversing; the field is dying. The sun is going out; its transformation of energy from there to here is ending.
Both of these are ELE events and would cause WW panic.
Yehoshua, in Hebrew
Yeshua, in Aramaic
Iesous, in Greek
Jesus, in latin
Savior, in any language
Similarly, you cannot cite random words in Greek and claim that the bible supports reincarnation, when it clearly does not.
That you think Constantine had something to do with Christianity is odd.
That you think Paul was not teaching the gospel of Jesus Christ makes me wonder why you're on a board for biblefags.
Maybe God just loves people with brass balls who deal with him on a personal basis.
Most of the time when we are angry at someone, it is for something we find at fault within ourselves, projected outwards.
When people are immersed in the Lake of Fire, forever and ever, they are baptized in fire.
It's a shame you have no understanding of the Word of God.
Paul writing to the Hebrews, who had become Christians but were also weak, and Hellenized, told them that they had no way back to the Old Covenant.
That the sacrifice of animals is over. That the New Covenant has been enacted, and the Old was disappearing.
If you think any born again Christian can live the rest of his life without sinning, a) you are not a born again Christian, and b) you have no close friends who are born again Christians who will confide in you.
2 Peter 3
But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
I had hoped for a thread of Christians discussing Christian things, not a board where pagans and occultists could sow confusion, doubt, and the gospel according to Bart Ehrman.
Bible >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wiki
I hope that you do feel shame. You should. You are sowing deceit and lies in a thread clearly marked out for discussion amongst Christians, of which you are not a member.
Constantine was a pagan worshiper of Apollo, and a patron of the Temple of Apollo, and remained one his entire life. He was never a Christian, and had nothing to do with Christianity.
If you reject Paul, who taught what Jesus revealed to him directly, you reject Jesus. Which merely confirms my judgment of you, above.
No, not the temple to Molech in the Valley of Hinnom.
The actual Lake of Fire Jesus created to confine the devil and his followers, including all of his human followers.
I mind being trolled about Jesus about as much as a butcher minds being trolled about USDA Prime steak.
Under the only grounds that there are. Being filled with the Holy Spirit of God.
Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
If you reject Paul, you reject Jesus.
1 Corinthians 1
Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.
13 Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?
14 I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius;
15 Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name.
16 And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other.
17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
The entire universe is going to be destroyed in an instant, and instantly replaced with a new heaven and a new earth.
Per the bible.
Not per your pagan earth studies.
Some will bend the knee and confess Jesus is Lord before they die, and go to heaven.
The rest will bend the knee and confess Jesus is Lord on their way to being cast into the Lake of Fire forever and ever.
You move more goalposts than an NFL crew on an October Sunday.
I told you where what you said did not exist, exists.
Can you do no research on your own?
The Holy Spirit is a person of the trinity; you quite clearly not only do not know that, but don't understand it either. You think some argument western pagans and eastern pagans have has something to do with the Holy Spirit of God, and it does not. Just squabbling amongst pagans.
John 20
Again Jesus said to them, “Peace be with you. As the Father has sent Me, so also I am sending you.” When He had said this, He breathed on them and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit.
The Ruach Elohim, the Breath of God, the Holy Spirit, is a person.
Who are you to judge another man's servant?
The devil has caused you to have the apostle appointed to teach you the New Covenant.
Maybe it's time you asked yourself why you're listening to the devil.
Yes, Paul is the greater apostle, died and saw heaven more times than John, and was called to all the gentiles. John, one of the so-called "pillars of faith" was judaizing people in the Temple.
Maybe it's time you started asking yourself some tough question.
Likd, you know you're damned and going to hell, but why are you okay with it?
It has to do with Belief, as Unbelief is the only sin remaining unforgiven in this life and the next.
You're being outed as a liar and child of satan, not judged.
Jesus does the judging.
You don't want to remain unrepentant until that day comes for you.
Paul spent years with Jesus in Arabia, being taught directly by Jesus.
If I reveal to you that my stapler is silver and black, is it a dream you had?
One of the myriad illogical points of your argument can be easily refuted.
How did Paul know more about Jesus than all the other apostles combined?
How did Paul know more about the New Covenant in Christ Jesus than all the other apostles combined?
How did Paul manifest more miracles than all of the other apostles combined?
No, it is a satanic attack on Paul to deny that Jesus did not personally choose Paul on the Road to Damascus, converting Saul to Paul, and tasking Paul with the role of leading 99% of the world, the non-Jewish world, to Christ Jesus.
Why you believe the Father of Lies, and not the Word of God, is ponderous, but so be it.
Galatians 2:9 And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.
John gave Paul the right hand of fellowship.
2 Peter 3
As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
Peter calls everything Paul wrote "scripture".
Your anti-Pauline/antichrist rant should be over by now.
Yes.
Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, aka Unbelief.
Mark 3
Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.
Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
So now I have shown you the scriptures concerning all that I have told you.
Are you any different now?
John 15:15 Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.
Not dangerous.
Expected.
It's exactly what I said. Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is the unforgivable sin.
It's sad that you think men brighter than you as the sun is brighter than a sunflower cannot translate Greek into English faithfully.
>Helped point me to all the places where dangerous inconsistencies with the Word of God exist.
No man can be pointed to the Abyss. He must choose to go there, as you choose to go there.
If fighting evil, lies, and the children of satan is bad, perhaps reconsider what side of this war you're on.
If you're looking for an "inoffensive gospel message", Jesus isn't for you.
Exposing a wolf in sheep's clothing casting doubt on the validity of the bible and of Paul's teachings is an endeavor worth taking.
Pick a side.
It's the same exact thing.
There are no inconsistencies with the Word of God. None. Your knowledge of Greek impresses absolutely nobody.
They translated the Greek into English, much as the Hebrews translated Hebrew into Greek for the Septiugent.
Easily.
Paul wrote several gospels. Maybe read them too.
I told you exactly how. Unbelief.
To understand that would have as a requirement to understand basic English, and to really understand it would require the teaching of the Holy Spirit himself.
I cited the verses where blasphemy of the Holy Spirit occurred. And then told you what they meant. There is no corresponding blasphemy of the Holy Spirit in the Old Covenant; the Old Covenant did not deal with gaining a relationship with the living God.
The New Covenant does.
>To blaspheme the Holy Spirit means to go against your own inner intuition.
That would make YOU the Holy Spirit.
Another fool is heard from. Where is the Law in what Paul taught here?
1 Corinthians 1
For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. For it is written:
“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise,
And bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.”
Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the disputer of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe. For Jews request a sign, and Greeks seek after wisdom; but we preach Christ crucified, to the Jews a stumbling block and to the Greeks foolishness, but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.
If you have not confessed with your mouth that Jesus is LORD, and do not believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you are lost.
The devil knows there's only one God. If that's the extent of your knowledge, good luck not living forever with the devil.
The Holy Spirit
The Spirit of the LORD will rest on him - the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of counsel and of power, the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD - and he will delight in the fear of the LORD. He will not judge by what he sees with his eyes, or decide by what he hears with his ears (Isaiah 11)
The Holy Spirit is a part of God, not just some force that God uses.
John 14:16-17 - The Holy Spirit is a Helper, or a person who helps.
John 14:26 - Again, the Holy Spirit is a Helper; Also shows Jesus' divinity by showing He can send the Holy Spirit
John 15:26 - The Holy Spirit can bear witness
John 16:7-8 The Holy Spirit is referred to as a 'He', again shows that Jesus can send Him
You don't have the Holy Spirit dwelling within you, as you do not know how to cause that to be.
And you clearly have zero understanding of the triune nature of God.
Showing people they are condemned is not condemning them.
It's showing them they're condemned.
Romans 10
But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith which we preach): that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.” For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord over all is rich to all who call upon Him. For “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
And that's how the condemned become saved children of God.
The Gospel of Paul to the Hebrews
The Gospel of Paul to the Romans
Your Bart Erhman eduction is showing.
If you knew what a theologian was, you would note that those are the synoptic gospels, which infers that there are other gospels as well.
Yes. Eternal Sin ==>Eternal Damnation
You're missing many things. Many, many, many things. But the most crucial is the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit of God, which is required to understand the scriptures.
If you think Sin and God live together, you don't know God.
Why do you think Jesus came to earth to be tortured and crucified?
Eternal Death ==>Eternal Separation from God, Who is Life
Your "works" are as filthy rags to a holy God, on the one hand, and hell deserving wickedness on the other. Good luck with that.
No. Most people are physically alive, and spiritually dead.
To be spiritually alive is to have the Holy Spirit of God enter into you and resurrect you to eternal life.
Adam and Eve were created spiritually alive. They died the day they sinned; the Holy Spirit left them.
Being born again in the Spirit is the regaining of the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit of God.
Otherwise, a man is born spiritually dead, remains spiritually dead, and is sorted out as spiritually dead to the only place where the spiritually dead can go. Lake of Fire. Eternal separation from God.
It's written there whether I claim it or not.
Matthew 25:46 And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”
Jude 1:7 as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
Revelation 19:20 Then the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who worked signs in his presence, by which he deceived those who received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image. These two were cast alive into the lake of fire burning with brimstone.
Revelation 20:10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
Those two humans, the Antichrist and False Prophet, are still in the Lake of Fire 1000 years after they are cast into the Lake of Fire.
There is no annihilation. There are eternal flames, outer darkness, weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth for all unrepentant sinners.
Does "everlasting" sound redemptive to you?
Also, the word translated into "hell".
Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
punishment, torment.
From kolazo; penal infliction – punishment, torment.
>Also, the word translated into "hell".
>Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
>punishment, torment.
>From kolazo; penal infliction – punishment, torment.
Not who you think I am. I have no gallery.
I read it as it is, and love the truth. You are terrified at some level of being on fire forever, and think you'll get a second chance. You won't. This is it. This is your life, your one time to choose Jesus, and become eternally living. Blow it, and there's nothing but fire, forever and ever.
People asked for bible verses supporting the Lake of Fire, and they were given. Typical Anon who doesn't want to read anything contrary to his bias.
Sheol is Hades. Neither is Gehenna/Hell/Lake of fire. Your biblical knowledge is zero.
Jesus, God, knows who's talking to him, and who isn't, and by what name. He reads the hearts of men; he is not dependent upon your vocal utterances to know what you are.
No, for Yehoahus/Yeshua. Facts are stubborn things.
Easily. We all deserve to go to hell forever.
In your ignorance you have overlooked God's hatred of sin.
God does not see the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, the unpardonable sin, in this life, and in the next?
God does not see what is not like Him?
You bet your eternal soul on that proposition?
Nobody's impressed with your one semester of Greek at a liberal seminary dude.
I will stubbornly resist the children of the devil so long as I draw breath on earth.
The thoughts of fools make those who read them more foolish.
>That all men would be saved. Why would he say “It is finished” before he died. Did he lie?
No, but you did. You believe everyone is saved. The bible, and Jesus, teach otherwise. So one of you is wrong, and it's not Jesus.
If she didn't, Aiesha certainly said it to Mohammad re how many wives the man could have.
I have to ask…..did Jesus fulfill all of the messianic prophecies if they were ripe to be fulfilled?
Are not the prophecies that Jesus did not fulfill 2000 years ago still in the ripening stage?
Does not the 1,000 reign of Jesus Christ from the throne of David in Jerusalem, an event in our future, not fulfill ALL of the messianic prophecies?
When you say Jesus did not fulfill all of the prophecies about the messiah, were you aware that some of them were time dependant, and that time has elapsed by almost 2000 years? If so, then either Jesus is the Messiah, and is coming back, or there will never be a Messiah.
Your choice. For you.
What rubbish. The hybrid demon/human offspring, the nephilim, were giants. Their sires, angels who took the form of men, are very tall. Very, very tall. The women were normal height, and were not likely to have been asked if they wanted to be raped by fallen angels.
You are actually one of the devil's children, as you have not asked to be adopted into the family of God.
The spirits of the dead nephilim, the giants, are not demons, but they are still evil spirits, and they are still chained up until the day of judgment.
Jesus said it personally. Eternal punishment. Does that matter to you, what Jesus says?
Jesus is the Root of David, the Lion of the Tribe of Judah, among other things. Nazareth was a Roman garrison town, basically "on the other side of the tracks", where they even raised pigs for the Romans to eat.
"Does anything good ever come out of Nazareth???"
Aye, any man who claims to no longer sin puts himself above Paul and on par with Christ Jesus. Do I "Have" to sin? What kind of an absurd question is that? If I could stop sinning entirely, I would absolutely do so. But I can't. Not because I don't want to, or because I "have to", but because of the sin nature that temporarily exists within my flesh.
I will be glad when the Lord burns it out of me, and I can be my real self, for the first time, at the beginning of my life.
Make sure your sins will find you out. Especially your lies.
His sacrifice was sufficient to save everyone.
Not everyone was saved.
So his sacrifice was not effective in saving everyone.
Because he is Love, and not Rape, and will not force people to believe the truth. If you want to live in darkness, and that forever, you can do so. And apparently are.
Again, Jesus said that people in hell are eternally punished. If it matters not to you what Jesus says, why are you providing your opinion about things in the bible?
Job figured out on his own, without any scriptures whatsoever, that mankind needed a mediator. Here you are given the mediator's name, and function, and you still can't figure it out.
The light entered into the world, but you love the darkness.
The devil said to Eve "eat the fruit; know good and evil; and thus be like God".
It was a lie. A lie you believe, and base your life on.
Why do the heathen rage?
Angels do not procreate. Fallen angels who take the form of men and rape women? Different story. The Nephilim? Their hybrid angel/human offspring. The plan? Corrupt human DNA to the point where there could not be a Kinsman Redeemer, as God has no demon DNA.
The problem? They were fighting against God, who flooded the world and preserved Noah, a 100% human, killing all the hybrids.
Paul spent years receiving direct revelations from Jesus, and wrote about it often.
Stop being a Jew.
There is no "Pauline doctrine". Paul taught the New Covenant as told to him by the risen Christ Jesus.
Stop being a Jew.
You're an idiot. Stop posting about the bible; you have zero knowledge. Zero. Did Paul desecrate the Holy of Holies in Jerusalem? No? Then he wasn't the antichrist.
>'But the evil spirit answered them, “Jesus I know, and Paul I recognize, but who are you?”'
No, the Jews tried "we excorcise you in the name of Jesus whom Paul preaches". That's when the demons said the above, before he lit into them. The Jews thought you had to know the name of the demon to cast it out; they thought that "the name of Jesus whom Paul preaches" sufficed to invoke the power of the Lord. They were wrong.
When man lie, hate Jesus, hate Christians, live in darkness, and do nothing but try to tear down mankind's only hope?
You bet you're going to get some pushback.
Why do the heathen rage?
Luke 12:5 But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear Him who, after He has killed, has power to cast into hell; yes, I say to you, fear Him!
First 2 humans cast into the Lake of Fire
Revelation 19:20 Then the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who worked signs in his presence, by which he deceived those who received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image. These two were cast alive into the lake of fire burning with brimstone.
They are still there, 1000 years later. are, not were
Revelation 20:10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
Then all of the lost human beings are cast into the Lake of Fire.
Revelation 20:15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.
The words of a fool mean nothing; the gnostics and all of their works are anathema.