Papacy is definitely involved up to their eye sockets, even revelatiins tells us this. Anyone not willing to believe the truth is lost, some like the ass your dealing with are intentionally blind to the truth & refuse to acknowledge truth or proof.
And for the ass your trying to awaken, just because the papacy is involved does not mean devout catholics are or even understand that the pope/papacy are evil… devout catholics are so blinded by the lie they'll die defending it because it's all they've know sense birth. They've been taught to worship the pope/papacy. You know worship something other than God & Christ, like a false idol even though GOD himself says in revelations that the pope willingly helps usher in the age of the antichrist. Old habits die hard & the good intentions are often lead astray