https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSA_g4mHIXg
CNN interview….just now….James Clapper in Australia…cant find sauce…last time he was there seems to be his address to the National Press Club
8 June 2017
http://www.anu.edu.au/news/all-news/speech-professor-james-clapper-ao-address-to-the-national-press-club