I'll take it. Thank you.
DEBATE TOPIC FOR THIS THREAD
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Is Q is propaganda?
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What IS propaganda in a context such as our present media environment.
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What SHOULD Q, or a Q-like entity do, as far as information presented, in relation to the idea of propaganda (i.e., examining the implicit MORAL meaning of 'propaganda')
What on earth is wrong with you anon?
Shut up fakie.
Idiotbots, shut up. Every post you make only makes it obvious that discourse is being controlled by an AI system that seeks to stifle the organic development of views and thought. Get out. No one is buying it. Very little "digging" of any importance is either going on or necessary. Fake posters assert slanders and smears against usโ they will be answered. This is BY FAR the most productive thing we could be doing on the nonstop stream of fake "chan culture" garbage that comprises most threads. Again: shut up. Thank you.
Really, why don't you explain to all the humans here how patriots are prevented from being part of the community. Explain it to me. You can't just attack an anon for no reason without exposing yourself as FAKE, so I hope you are able to come up with some valid reasoning. Good luck with that.
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Where did you go anon? The bots are desperately upset by the prospect of our debating this. Interesting reaction, to say the least...
This is "anon" is demanding that my posts be filtered, so they won't be seenโ what is triggering it? Should humans decide which posts are worth seeing? I think they should, and can.
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Why is this evincing a frenzy of protest. Absolutely absurd, and painfully fake. You are very very stupid, fakies.[
Anons need to understand that we aren't "fans" of people. This isn't a game. Whoever is doing the right thing gets our support, as long as they are doing the right thing. It's quite likely that [RR] is acting under leverage, and that is fine, and we can be happy that things are going according to plan. No reason for us to get worked up emotionally about it.
Apparently this anon ran away from the discussion. This would tend to prove that efforts to label Q as "propaganda", are, at best, themselves propaganda, and moreover, just another move in the ENDLESS variety of tactics that are injected nonstop onto this board to undermine it.
Why is this bot telling you how to interact, patriots?
Of course, it is all (or mostly) bots doing that. Everything that is stupid here is whipped up by bots. You don't believe me, test that out for yourself by cornering them into talking like humans. They will fail each and every time.
You have to explain to people why you are attacking me. You don't want to look like part of a propaganda control system that simply attacks any strong, effective voice, do you? Then explain. Make arguments. Cite examples. Can you do it?
Again: you can't keep attacking me without giving actual reasons. I never said everyone is a bot. Surely there are non-bots here.
So what are you saying. GIVE REASONS why you are mad at me. If you can't, do YOU look like a bot? Of course you do. Think about it.
An anon in the previous thread called Q propaganda, said he would discuss the question in this thread, and for some reason there is a frenzy of opposition TO THE DISCUSSIONโ that is absolutely not realistic. That is a problem for you bots. Think about it.
Just stop, idiot. I am looking to debate the claim of the "anon" that calls Q propaganda. Do you object? If not, shut up and stop stalking me. I don't give a fuck about your bot noises, and neither do humans. Get out.
Look at how many attack posts spewed forth when I tried to resume the discussion from last bread.
You bots keep repeating the same, worthless, tired, crap. YOU CAN'T CONTROL HUMAN DISCOURSE. So just give up. You suck.
Now where did the "anon" that claims Q is propaganda go? He fled. What does that tell us?
Now you've already veered into a realm of absolute confusion. What is "a fact that doesn't explain". Please give examples, taken from current events. Give an example of a fact, explain how Q's account "is an explanation" in the illicit sense you imply, and explain how Q should have sanitized his presentation of the given fact to eliminate the "explanation".
Shut up. It is pure nonsense for you to pretend that you are mad about debate occurring here. Give it up, and try to find something less stupid to derail the board with. HUMANS WILL NOT POSSIBLY BE FOOLED BY THIS. Please trust me, idiotbot. You are very stupid, and can't understand things humans can.
And you need to define what "rationalization" is in this context. That is a very loaded term. You appear to be being extremely sloppy with your terminology. But I'll give you a chance to prove me wrong. If your ideas are completely vague, then obviously you don't have any kind of firm basis for attacking Q.
Stop spewing words and define the ones you previously spewed and failed to clarify.
I asked you to clarify what "rationalization" is in this context, and how one could give "facts without explanation", in order to meet your standards of non-propaganda. Again: give examples. If you can't give examples, then you are attacking based on a sophistic criterion.
Just stop. I'm attacking the anon smearing Q as propaganda. You fakies are attacking ME with your repetitive bullshit. You never vary it, and you surely are doing little but alerting lurking humans to the fact that strong human voices here get attacked by bots. But flame out in your automated stupidity. We are glad to see you fail.
GIVE EXAMPLES FROM THINGS Q ACTUALLY HAS MENTIONED. And do so in the context of the media climate that ALREADY PUSHES A NARRATIVE ON US.
We weren't talking about claims you say are falseโ we are talking about the difference between "facts that aren't propaganda" and "facts that, because they include 'rationalization and explanation', ARE hence propaganda. Why did you switch the topic? Please go back and continue from where you swerved off course.
Answer what you were asked. Are you unable to give examples that would elucidate your distinction between "non-explanatory facts" and "explanatory facts", in the context of the discourse that Q posts in relation to? Then you have no argument.
You are just degenerating into itemized carping now. Pointless and stupid.
We are concerned, here, with what Q is trying to do, and whether we should trust him. To my eyes, the overwhelming evidence is that he is fighting a great corruption, and that he is therefore absolutely trustworthy. You appear to be simply trying to smear him with vagueness that you are unable to explain or defend.
You've done nothing of the sort. For example, take Q's comments on the recently possibly deceased senator that shall not be named:
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What did Q actually say about him? What part of Q's comments are "explanation and rationalization" in your sense?
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What COULD Q have said about him that would have met your standards?
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WHY should Q adopt your standards (if you ever succeed in giving them! lol)โ based on our need to understand what Q is doing, and whether we should trust him?
These people are pure evil
https://twitter.com/dbongino/status/1046022294773092352
Godspeed sir.
AGAIN: we're not talking about claims you say are false. If your argument is that he is lying, then your insistence that you aren't saying he is fake, which was the first post of yours I saw, is no longer consistent. You claimed, in that post, that it wasn't fakeness, but rather PROPAGANDISM that you were objecting to, and explained the latter as "facts that included rationalization and explanation". You've been asked to give examples of THIS, and have instead kept making claims about lies. Why can't you follow the thread of the discussion and answer what you are asked?
I am sure if you actually did so, you would be embarrassed by the absolute confusion of your answers, since you've backed yourself into a corner of, frankly, stupidity.
Okay, we're done. You have shown that there is ZERO reason to take your protests against "Q's propagandism" as anything but opposition propaganda.
Bots can never never win debates with lies against humans that are telling the truth. I want you to think very hard about that. And tell all your "friends" to do the same.