Anonymous ID: 5fd95b Feb. 14, 2018, 11:25 a.m. No.374611   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>4736

>>356091

> USS Pueblo - Navy intelligence spy ship - captured by North Korea on 23 January 1968

A spy ship would have had

radio apparatus for transmitting and receiving

apparatus for encrypting/decrypting signals

probably a code book with one-time pad codes

officers and radiomen involved in transmitting/receiving intelligence classified messages

one or more commanding officers who were aware of the most classified messages and intelligence sent/received

data that the spy ship had obtained but not yet transmitted to headquarters

other kinds of surveillance gear: sonar, radar, SIGINT, satellite, radiation sensors, etc etc. Whatever was used by the Navy circa 1968

 

As an environmental research / spy ship, it was also in a position to transport cargo and/or passengers, possibly covert ones.

 

How could obtaining any or all of this from the USS Pueblo have benefited North Korea?

How could it have benefitted whoever controlled North Korea?

What else was going on here that does not meet the eye?

 

(Why did an anon in the General thread post that the Pueblo had been surreptitiously moved by the North Koreans using antigrav / levitation technology because it would have been impossible to place in its present position by sailing on a waterway? I didn't see any sauce to support that viewpoint - depth of river - ship's dimensions - lat/long where exactly it was captured - lat/long where it currently is - etc. Is this important, or a total red herring?)

Anonymous ID: 5fd95b Feb. 14, 2018, 11:42 a.m. No.374736   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>5322 >>5551

>>374611

From Wikipedia article

wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Pueblo_(AGER-2)

 

Pueblo did not have effective defensive weapons. Her 50mm machine guns were kept covered; ammo was stored below deck. Although the crew were trained before departure, these balky machine guns required 10 minutes warmup before they could even be fired… (!? seems a bit odd … apparently they were not really expecting combat …)

 

"…The North Korean vessels attempted to board Pueblo, but she was maneuvered to prevent this for over two hours. A submarine chaser then opened fire with a 57 mm cannon, killing one member of the crew. The smaller vessels fired machine guns into Pueblo, which then signaled compliance and began destroying sensitive material. The volume of material on board was so great that it was impossible to destroy it all. An NSA report quotes Lieutenant Steve Harris, the officer in charge of Pueblo's Naval Security Group Command detachment:

 

(…) we had retained on board the obsolete publications and had all good intentions of getting rid of these things but had not done so at the time we had started the mission. I wanted to get the place organized eventually and we had excessive numbers of copies on board (…)

 

and concludes

 

Only a small percentage of the total classified material aboard the ship was destroyed.

 

Radio contact between Pueblo and the Naval Security Group in Kamiseya, Japan, had been ongoing during the incident. As a result, Seventh Fleet command was fully aware of Pueblo's situation. Air cover was promised but never arrived. The Fifth Air Force had no aircraft on strip alert, and estimated a two to three-hour delay in launching aircraft. USS Enterprise was located 510 nautical miles (940 km) south of Pueblo, yet her four F-4B aircraft on alert were not equipped for an air-to-surface engagement. Enterprise's captain estimated that 1.5 hours (90 minutes) were required to get the converted aircraft into the air.[11]

 

Pueblo followed the North Korean vessels as ordered, but then stopped immediately outside North Korean waters. She was again fired upon, and a sailor, fireman Duane Hodges, was killed. The ship was finally boarded at 05:55 UTC (2:55 pm local)[13] by men from a torpedo boat and a submarine chaser. Crew members had their hands tied and were blindfolded, beaten, and prodded with bayonets. Once Pueblo was in North Korean territorial waters, she was boarded again, this time by high-ranking North Korean officials…. "

…Breach of US Navy communications security

Reverse engineering of communications devices on Pueblo allowed the North Koreans to share knowledge with the Soviet Union that led to the replication of those communications devices. This allowed the two nations access to the US Navy's communication systems until the late 1980s when the US Navy revised those systems. The seizure of Pueblo followed soon after US Navy warrant officer John Anthony Walker introduced himself to Soviet authorities, setting up the Walker spy ring. It has been argued that the seizure of Pueblo was executed specifically to capture the encryption devices aboard. Without them, it was difficult for the Soviets to make full use of Walker's information.

 

I find this incredible. Does this make any sense?

→Pueblo had top-of-the-line encryption gear aboard (yes)

→Encryption gear was captured by enemies (yes)

→US Navy continued to use that same hardware "until the late 1980s when the US Navy revised those systems", in other words continued in a course of action that could have left them wide open to being spied upon for >17 years? THIS IS INCREDIBLE. These were encryption DEVICES and presumably the devices utilized encryption keys or codes. The Navy were able to change the keys or codes, but not the devices. So it may have left us vulnerable or partly vulnerable. Certainly it made the enemy's spying task a lot easier.

 

Is THIS the RELEVANCE of the PUEBLO to this deep dig, anons?

Anonymous ID: 5fd95b Feb. 14, 2018, 12:46 p.m. No.375322   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>374736

I'm wondering if the US deliberately allowed the capture of the Pueblo, and deliberately allowed North Korea + Soviet Union to believe the encryption gear they captured and reverse engineered was still in use til the late 1980s … whereas maybe this was a deliberate lie, done as a way to pass false/misleading intel to the Soviets … ?

 

Timeframe coincides closely to when The Asia Foundation (TAF) ramped up. Which began decades of shenanigans in east Asia.

 

asiafoundation.org/about/timeline/

TAF found 1954 …

…1967 media report TAF received covert funding

 

Capture of the USS Pueblo: 23 January 1968

 

wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_in_the_Vietnam_War

 

The year 1968 saw major developments in the Vietnam War. The military operations started with an attack on a US base by the Vietnam People's Army (NVA) and the Viet Cong on January 1, ending a truce declared by the Pope and agreed upon by all sides. At the end of January, the North Vietnamese and the Vietcong launched the Tet Offensive. Although militarily the operation was a failure for the Vietnamese communists, for them it was a propaganda victory, as on the home front the American public were shocked by the images they were seeing on their televisions.

 

Reflecting this public outrage the media made a number of iconic news stories including Peter Arnett quoting an unnamed US major as saying, "It became necessary to destroy the town to save it." Eddie Adams' iconic image of South Vietnamese General Nguyễn Ngọc Loan's execution of a Vietcong operative was taken in 1968. The year also saw Walter Cronkite's call to honourably exit Vietnam because he thought the war was lost. This negative impression forced the US into the Paris peace talks with North Vietnam.

 

US troop numbers peaked in 1969 with President Johnson approving an increased maximum number of US troops in Vietnam at 549,500. The year was the most expensive in the Vietnam war with the American spending US$77.4 billion (US$ 544 billion in 2018) on the war. The year also became the deadliest of the Vietnam War for America and its allies with 27,915 South Vietnamese (ARVN) soldiers killed and the Americans suffering 16,592 killed compared to around two hundred thousand of the communist forces killed. The deadliest week of the Vietnam War for the USA was during the Tet Offensive specifically February 11–17, 1968, during which period 543 Americans were killed in action, and 2547 were wounded.

Anonymous ID: 5fd95b Feb. 14, 2018, 12:48 p.m. No.375357   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>374603

CAPSMAN does not hang out here AFAIK. He comes in, drops for a few hours, then leaves. Arrives circa 8-10 PM eastern time and stays for a few hours.

You could pick one thing he dropped that hasn't been dug yet, and start digging on it.