Anonymous ID: 8f55e5 Oct. 2, 2018, 5:51 a.m. No.3293214   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>3528

>>3292967 previous

 

Not following. Help me out please.

 

If BK said he did not know about an accusation, until he was questioned about it, how is that damning to him?

 

And, if questioned under confidentiality restrictions, with names redacted and such, how was he supposed to respond, a little later, in public questioning? Sort of a Catch-22.

 

I've missed something, yes?

Anonymous ID: 8f55e5 Oct. 2, 2018, 6:05 a.m. No.3293332   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>3402

>>3293191

 

There are interview techniques that are far more reliable than what is going on in public with BK.

 

Our system has been awful at putting innocent men away. Usually the error is a genuine error in how the questioning was handled during police investigation.

 

For example, a woman gives a detailed description of the assailant (assuming first that an actual assault has been established as having taken place and she is the victim.) Police narrow the list of suspects based on that description.

 

They build a case that leads to one individual as the likely attacker. No DNA evidence would mean a great reliance on other evidence, including circumstantial evidence.

 

The pressure to put an attacker away is not light. So the police show the victim a few photos of different men who fit the description, including the main suspect. In this part of the process, the investigators can inadvertently give hints of which man they think they have the strongest case against.

 

She picks the prime suspect. The police might give her encouragement – yeh, that is the man we had top of list. Good job. We have him in custody by the way. Reassurances are human offerings to a victim, of course.

 

Then they do a line-up. Again, inadvertent hints can lead a witness astray. Reinforcement of her selection, if she made one from the line-up, can solidify her memory and make it unshakable. Even if she is mistaken.

 

The same sort of thing is known to happen in response to evidence and such made public in newspapers. Speculations spoil good evidence, sometimes. Speculations lead to false IDEN, also.

 

Here we are dealing with huge publicity over all kinds of uncorroborated and unestablished accusations. The man's life is now tied to thousands of women's memories of assaults – not that all would accuse him but you see the emotional H-bomb.

 

The typical police investigator would be appalled if his job went this badly on a real case. In fact, some of the greatest strides forward in improving interview techniques and IDEN techniques have come about by the efforst of LEO who have gotten it wrong – wrongful convictions tear at a man's professional conscience. If not, then, not a good cop, frankly.

 

So when we see these amature sleuths – the politicians and their staffs – scrambling to put forward accusations publicly, there is going to be a high price to pay on their consciences. The typical human reaction to having gotten it wrong is to blame someone else. And that is what these politicos will do, unrelentingly. But the price they will have to pay is not measured in votes or power but rather in the cold knife of guilt that pierces the heart in the quiet of an afternoon or during a moment's reflection – unbidden.

Anonymous ID: 8f55e5 Oct. 2, 2018, 6:16 a.m. No.3293418   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>3293185

 

Also note that the US Secret Service is a powerful investigative authority under the command of POTUS Trump. Wide latitude.

 

Lots of bridges available to the president.

Anonymous ID: 8f55e5 Oct. 2, 2018, 6:30 a.m. No.3293529   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>3539

>>3293402

 

Deterrence is now a larger concern, yes. Especially when the falsehoods are deliberately presented. Especially when the falsehoods lead to profit – by some measure.

 

The deterrence has to be such that it has minimal adverse influence on genuine victims coming to law enforcement.

 

The normal response to a victim is to help. Convicting the wrong person is not a help, of course, but a strong wind makes it seem like a help at the time.

 

So, yes, deterrence is needed to put off schemers, for certain. The penalty should include a punishment (in the range of possible sentences and other penalties) as heavy as that which an accused would have faced for the alleged crime.

 

And, yes, it is complicated by the nature of these kinds of assaults and the tendency of victims to not come forth. Gets the bad guy before he can do it again to someone else, hopefully.

 

Now, I think we should encourage investigation of actual crimes, yes.

 

But victims – not just of these kinds of assaults – often have good reasons to hold back and to "carry on". That needs to be respected, also.

 

Difficult waters to navigate. Made far more difficult by the fakers.

Anonymous ID: 8f55e5 Oct. 2, 2018, 6:51 a.m. No.3293730   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>3944

>>3293230

 

It was evil through-out, Hungary one of the worst examples.

 

Political and professional death is the threat today. That can change too quickly.

 

Thanks for the reminder of the soviet record on this, Anon. Cuts deeply.